Mephisto Genetics OK Meph Heads : Harnessing Auto's Competitiveness Instinct

[Dr.Bubbles]

I really owe it to myself to try the new GWK. I hope it's the same. A little story:

Very first auto we grew was a Sour Stomper. If you've ever seen the original Sour Stomper packaging, it came with a purple plastic toy truck and it was packaged like a Matchbox Car. Super cool. I went digging and looking for a pic but no dice.

Anyway, after the Stomper completely blew is away, we wanted to see what the whole lineup from Phist had in store. Went on a buying binge and tried ⅔ of the catalog at the time. Along this shopping spree a little lady by the name of Illuminauto Number 28 popped up. It was GWK. Holy hell. We grew a bunch of these, and even made a $200 order and asked for nothing but GWK. No normal freebies, no nothing. Here is $200 and We would like as many GWK seeds as you can send us. We got a few...lol. I think it was over 40. I still got at least 15 of em. I hope they are still viable.

It's such a fun strain to grow. It takes to LST very well. It's super stinky though. Like dangerously. I came home one day about 2 weeks before harvest or so and smelled dope. From outside. 120 feet away. Where normal people walk their dogs and the dumplins jog and get all sweaty. No good. The smell of the weed, the dumplins are fine...lol. I got that shit sorted out within 24 hours. This was from TWO PLANTS!!! Yeah...be careful with GWK...make sure your extraction system is up to the job and there isn't any leaks and you're running on negative pressure.

After all this, you can imagine my surprise when I found out that GWK was not going to make it into permanent rotation. This is when we spearheaded a plan to stop this atrocity. We bugged Phisto so much, I think they were actually getting annoyed with us. Needless to say, it worked. I haven't even tried the "new" GWK, I hope it's as good as the original. Very consistent performer.

I was looking for a pic of the Sour Stomper trucky package. I rounded up some pics. There is a few shots of the monster DWC Auto Euforia from DP that went 120+ days. Got a BAD case of fungus gnats in the roots, had to pick it 2 weeks early, and still got 25 or 26 ounces from it. Sold it all for like $160 an ounce. Talk about a huge plant...lol. There is also a pic or 2 of Auto Ultimate...got a pound off that one too. Not as good as the Meph catalog though. There was a bunch of strains that I wasn't in love with. Some of the Livers strains, Creme Bubbly and a handful of others. Had great luck with Kushy stuff, Triangle stuff and the Stomper stuff. Grape Stomper, Sour Stomper, Skywalker, GWK and a few others.

Maybe I should start again. Today? Dust off the 1825s and 1818s, and I got a sweet Samsung Strip frame with 561Cs at 5700°K on a 120w Mean Well with a dimmer. I haven't even used it yet for growing, but it should be amazing.

Keep the big plants coming. I really need to start something. Like now.

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[jumper114]

Interesting as my only GWK threw of all training. It’s in my previous grow. Got 3 from her.

She simply would not take to training and went single cola.

Potency and smell - you ain’t wrong.

Thank you so much for some nostalgia - these stories need to be heard!

The only difference for GWK to now is I did not horizontal train her. There is something to keeping them below second node in relative height!

 

[Organic Sinse]

Jumper, I find your ideas with shading quite interesting. There is definitely something to it. I squeeze in a greenhouse crop of autos with my veggies each summer. I live way up at Lat 61 so the season is super short. Because of the high latitude and low sun angle, when its cloudy here, none of the plants feel much light. Sometimes we will get stuck with cloudy weather for a long time and all the plants in the greenhouse definitely feel it. Autos actually take it a lot better than some other plants do. Autos always spring back to full swing, as soon as the sun returns, and it definitely ends up adding lots of days. It would be pretty realistic to say that every really cloudy day, just adds a day to the total grow. But zero growth to show for it.
Even though you are an indoor guy, perhaps some of the greenhouse guys out there might have some experiences to go with your ideas. I only get to green house grow 3-4 months a year, so I don't really count.
Keep up the good work. I like the way you chase after answers to questions you have. Very scientific style in my book.
cheers
os

 

[Frank Nitty]

Jumper, I find your ideas with shading quite interesting. There is definitely something to it. I squeeze in a greenhouse crop of autos with my veggies each summer. I live way up at Lat 61 so the season is super short. Because of the high latitude and low sun angle, when its cloudy here, none of the plants feel much light. Sometimes we will get stuck with cloudy weather for a long time and all the plants in the greenhouse definitely feel it. Autos actually take it a lot better than some other plants do. Autos always spring back to full swing, as soon as the sun returns, and it definitely ends up adding lots of days. It would be pretty realistic to say that every really cloudy day, just adds a day to the total grow. But zero growth to show for it.
Even though you are an indoor guy, perhaps some of the greenhouse guys out there might have some experiences to go with your ideas. I only get to green house grow 3-4 months a year, so I don't really count.
Keep up the good work. I like the way you chase after answers to questions you have. Very scientific style in my book.
cheers
os

Dilly Dilly!!!

 

[Dr.Bubbles]

It almost sounds like there is a scale in there to be played with. From normal sunny days which count and add growth to completely cloudy days that basically just stall everything. It sounds like if it was graphed onto a line, somewhere close to the middle would be the happy medium of adding growth without adding to the calendar.

It would be so nice to have a little wiggle room early on. That giant Euforia had to be trimmed daily just to keep it manageable. It would have been like a freaking yew bush. Look at the 2nd and 3rd pics above, that's a 5 gallon bucket, and those tiles are 12" tiles. I count 5'. DWC is nuts.

I would really love to see how this ticks and how to repeat it.

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[jumper114]

This is the thing. Autos are not really the ticking time bombs they are made out to be. I am now seeing they can run for 150 days no problem.

Manipulating and stalling each stage

- delay tap root stress as long as possible (elevated solo cup)
- keep girl horizontal from second true set of leaves and below height of 2nd true node. Tied to the rim.
- keep tying down to horizontal until bored!
- girl will show sex and sometimes hit preflower but will not stretch until she is "released" and allowed to grow above 3rd node - from what I have witnessed
- once in stretch, shadow can stall further.
- larger girls around smaller plants lead to overdrive from the smaller girl - beating strain limits (nature's competitive overdrive injection)

All very fascinating stuff. Way more experimentation required. I got 7 x SC pack in the post yesterday. Non topped and horizontal trained is next.