Indoor Nutrient BioBizz Questions!

[mmstickybuds]

Hey Guys!

I have never been great with completely understanding nutrients, so thought I would finally educate myself. A lot of what I read online, especially hydro nutrients apply to chemical nutes and I use organic. As far as the selection I have available to me, the only good range of organic nutes I can get is the BioBizz range, and I have seen some ppl around here use them. Westvirginiarebel has educated me somewhat so I do know now what the numbers mean, but not how they apply to my set-up.

So here are the 'specs' I suppose...

Bio-Grow:

NPK = 8.0 / 2.0 / 6.0

Bio-Bloom:

NPK = 2.0 / 6.0 / 3.5

Fish-Mix:

NPK = 6.0 / 2.0 / 4.0

I also have Fulvic acid and am getting some Myco root solution today along with some molasses. The first feeding I gave her on Saturday afternoon was about 2ml/L of all three Biobizz products and then about 1ml/L of Fulvic Acid.

What I really need to know is, does this seem okay for beginning my feeding schedule? Should I be feeding her less of any of the nutes? Are the numbers of these nutrients high enough? And finally how often should I feed her?

I know other people have got feeding schedules up but I haven't found any that really relate to my situation, and am wary of taking advice meant for someone else based on a setup that isn't particularly close to mine.

The only other organic nutes I can get is Bat Guano but as I have some in the soil, and am going to use molasses I have decided to skip this...unless maybe my Nutes aren't strong enough or something.

Any advice or help would really be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

---------- Post added 10-03-2011 at 09:18 AM ----------

Aah didn't mention, I am using an AutoPot hydroponic system, and obviously, organic nutrients.

 

[agito]

read my sig all you need is fish mix then you can progress to fish mix and bloom after your first grow dont make it over complicated
fish mix and grow are interchangable and normally used at 1ml per litre
down load the biobizz feeding schedule

bizz in a res system only lasts 48 hours then the res has to be changed

 

[agito]

BIOBIZZ Newsletter, 09 2006

Hey there!,

Not everybody knows, but it is possible to use Biobizz products on Hydro systems, and it is being done already. Especially here in Holland (on rockwool), in France (NFT and Coco) and Spain (Aeroponics).

Biobizz products were originally designed for growing on soil, but since we have OMRI and SKAL/EKO certifications (to prove and ensure it is 100% biological) we filter and process some of our components in such a manner, that they can work in universal way, regardless if you are growing on rockwool, NFT or with an automated Cocosystem

The basic rules:

Topmax, Biobloom and Rootjuice work without any problem on all hydroponical systems, like NFT, rockwool, Coco, Clay pebbels, Autopot / Aquasystems, Aeroponics etc,etc.

Topmax, Biobloom and Rootjuice can be stored in tanks or nutrient barrels for about one week, but only if a good circulation pump is added as well. Always work clean, Biobizz nutrients contain no preservatives.

Biogrow/ Fishmix, You can use it, but it decomposes very quickly, because of it’s concentrated ingredients. In an NFT system or nutrient tank it would mean you'd have to refresh the tank every 2 days instead of once a week. Also you have to really know what you are doing. Since it can go wrong easily if you don't pay attention, we do not promote it.

For automated sytems, it’s the same story. Biogrow/ Fishmix, decompose in two days, and start to foam. So if you have prepared a solution with water Biogrow and/or Fishmix, use the content of the tank immediatly. Besides the mix of these two products can clogg up the tubings of your system. Use at least ø4mm tubings for your watering system to prevent this. It can be advised after feeding to flush the tubings with additonal water, clearing out all remaining residue.

For automated coco systems, Biogrow/ Fishmix, can be best used as a topfeeder by hand. Simply water by hand 2-3 times a week to avoid smelly and foaming nutrient barrels. If you add Biogrow/ Fishmix, to your tank make sure you use the complete content at once!

Using simple filters like a panty or old t-shirt can help filter larger particles in Biobizz nutrients, without loosing power, it will help to prevent clogging.

Fishmix and/or Alg-a-Mic: can be used as a foliarspray, you can continue doing this (2-3 times a week, 1-2ml per liter) untill the second week of flowering, then you have to stop, because these two products should not come in direct contact with the flowers.

The Fishmix makes sure you have enough nitrogen (if you are growing/flowering on NFT, this is the only extra source of Nitrogen Biobizz can provide (besides the Nitrogen in Biobloom), but after the second week of flowering you might need to add an additonal product to maintain specific Nitrogen levels if your plants show deficiencies.

With only Topmax and Biobloom it will lack nitrogen, magnesium and other usefull elements. Not so much because Biobizz products are crap, but because the NPK levels of 100% organic products can never be higher than 8.

Sometimes,depending on the seize of the plant, and in specific systems, after the second week of flowering a higher NPK level is required than Biobloom can offer on it’s own. Soil for instance, is a much better buffer and much richer in minerals than the water in an NFT tank. As we already said, Biobizz is originally designed for soil.

For dosage on hydroponical and Coco systems, we advise to follow our growchart for lightmix + aprox. 40%, So 5ml becomes 7 ml, 2ml becomes 3 ml and so on.

You can find our growchart on www.biobizz.com under downloads/resources

So to evaluate this whole story: Topmax, Bloom, and Rootjuice are multifunctional products that you can use in combination with other nutrients in any system.

Fishmix and Alg-a-mic as foliar spray 1-3 ml 2-3 times a week, till the second week of flowering

Biogrow/ Fishmix: In a hydrosystem do not use unless you know exaclty what you are doing or if you like to use it as a topfeeder on Coco systems.

So what about Bioheaven?

Now, this product was designed for ALL systems, Hydro, Coco, Aero, Soil etc. It is an individual product, not a bloomstimulator or rootstimulator! It can be used with ALL nutrient programs and products, and is designed to boost the application of the nutrient you are using. The L-Amino-acids are doing two important things for the plants: They transform macro-elements in natural enzyms and proteins,

and they increase the mineral uptake from 15-20% to 80-90%. This means you use every drop out of every mililiter of nutrient you are using! Because of the increased efficiency of the plants regulation system it works as a powerfull energy booster. For Bioheaven we have only one application: Use it !

 

[mmstickybuds]

read my sig all you need is fish mix then you can progress to fish mix and bloom after your first grow dont make it over complicated
fish mix and grow are interchangable and normally used at 1ml per litre
down load the biobizz feeding schedule

bizz in a res system only lasts 48 hours then the res has to be changed

Hey Agito!

Thanks a lot for the help! I have a res system but I feed separately from the top soil.
It's something to do with the AutoPot system, apparently it will get clogged if you put nutes in the res.
Thanks again man!

 

[agito]

if using soiless aim closer to the light mix guide i would not use bloom in the last week but i would use grow and not go over 3ml on bloom
remember fish and grow are the same ish use one or the other or 50/50
dont worry about the boosters most are pants
http://www.growing-life.com/shop/biobizz_grow_chart.jpg

 

[AutoMan]

I've used BioBizz for bout a year now..(in nuteless soil)..with great results.....I start with 1ml/ltr of appropriate nute for age/growth...during flower,I use a ramped up schedule up to 5ml/ltr....as BioBizz is molasses based, I rarely use molasses.... just don't pic ya nose after using Fish Mix....

 

[mmstickybuds]

if using soiless aim closer to the light mix guide i would not use bloom in the last week but i would use grow and not go over 3ml on bloom
remember fish and grow are the same ish use one or the other or 50/50
dont worry about the boosters most are pants
http://www.growing-life.com/shop/biobizz_grow_chart.jpg

Great! Thanks so much!
Yeah not using soil so will use the lighter guide..also thought that when I saw the boosters at the store today. Did get some Myco Root, but not molasses yet.
Do you perhaps have any idea why my plant may be drooping? She is fine for about 5 or 6 hours after the light goes on but after about 15 she looks pretty limp, not that over-watered look but just not standing upright.
Thanks for the help though, I will remember what I have learned today, still got a bit to figure out though...

 

[mmstickybuds]

I've used BioBizz for bout a year now....with great results.....I start with 1ml/ltr of appropriate nute for age/growth...during flower,I use a ramped up schedule up to 5ml/ltr....as BioBizz is molasses based, I rarely use molasses.... just don't pic ya nose after using Fish Mix....

Lol haha yeah that Fish-Mix is pretty deadly stuff!
Cool thanks so much for the input! I guess I will just see what works for me, based on all the help! Do you grow in Hydro?

 

[agito]

not sure mate you got a big temp drop in the night does your media hold enough 02 the mix in autopots can be crucial. myco is good so is rockdust/rockmeal top max makes ur weed taste bad
some times the biz is a bit mg light so one dose of espom salts in week 3-4 is advised

 

[mmstickybuds]

not sure mate you got a big temp drop in the night does your media hold enough 02 the mix in autopots can be crucial. myco is good so is rockdust/rockmeal top max makes ur weed taste bad
some times the biz is a bit mg light so one dose of espom salts in week 3-4 is advised

Yeah it can get a little cold, it is summer in Africa though so it's not like, proper cold. But my night is her day also so its warm in there...the media should be holding o2, I actually asked the lady today cos I was also worried the plants don't get a 'dry period' in the autoppots...she assured me that it isn't an issue though...
but I also have air-pumps that oxygenate the water inside the pots in the hydroton. Not sure if that would help with what you're talking about, I will use the epsom salts too, I never realised that.
Thanks once again for your very helpful advice!