male female selection on new auto strain

[S!N!STER]

I asked Mitch from Mephisto Genetics about this very topic (photo pollen on femal auto/auto pollen on female photo) and in a simplified nutshell he said that it doesn't really make any difference. Pick the traits you are looking to pass on and breed with those. By the time you work a non auto to auto you will have worked through four generations of selecting for the traits you want passed on. Then end result will give you no inclination as to whether the photo parent was a male or female, or whether the auto parent was a male or female. That's what I got from it at least.

As long as one of the parents is an autoflower than the genetic trait will be passed along to the offspring. They won't show up in the first generation, but the second generation should have 25% autoflowers for you to select and breed together to create more autoflowering seeds. From those you can pick and choose what you like to further stabilize the more specific traits you're after.

If I'm off on any of this someone should chime in.

@gbd thx for that info m8 very much apreciated but can you also tell me if i have to use auto pollen again for 2nd generation cause as you stated there werent gonna be autos first run so how will i know what phenos to use for 2nd gen if you know what i mean

hope you can tell me m8

 

[gbd]

Hey belial, sorry for not seeing the response and getting back to you sooner. It breaks down like this.

Auto x photo will produce F1 seeds that do not autoflower. F1 is the name of the first generation and all F1 auto x photo will be photoperiod plants that contain the recessive autoflower trait.

Breed a male and female both from that F1 generation to create the next generation, F2. In the F2 seeds you will see approximately 25% autoflower. Plant enough seeds to find a male and female autoflower in F2, and breed them together for F3.

In F3 85-100% will autoflower. Select the qualities and characteristics you like from the F3 and breed them for regular (male and female) F4 seeds, or you could take two F3 autoflowering females, reverse one and pollinate the other to create feminized autoflowering F4 seeds.

Hope this helps. Sorry again for not getting back to you sooner.

 

[S!N!STER]

helps a lot m8... many many thx 2 u :stylez rasta smoke:

 

[Gabro]

Hey belial, sorry for not seeing the response and getting back to you sooner. It breaks down like this.

Auto x photo will produce F1 seeds that do not autoflower. F1 is the name of the first generation and all F1 auto x photo will be photoperiod plants that contain the recessive autoflower trait.

Breed a male and female both from that F1 generation to create the next generation, F2. In the F2 seeds you will see approximately 25% autoflower. Plant enough seeds to find a male and female autoflower in F2, and breed them together for F3.

In F3 85-100% will autoflower. Select the qualities and characteristics you like from the F3 and breed them for regular (male and female) F4 seeds, or you could take two F3 autoflowering females, reverse one and pollinate the other to create feminized autoflowering F4 seeds.

Hope this helps. Sorry again for not getting back to you sooner.

I loved the explanation! ;-)

Thank you so much for sharing!

 

[roodles.prease]

many thanks for the replies guys,

as i get it it doesnt make any diferrence whether the auto or photo is male or female when crossing a strain.. thats a good thing cause that means i only need one of the two species have male so wouldnt matter wich one it is making the odds of a good male bigger for me...

only one question leaves me here that is about the 2nd generation..
-would i have to select 2 plants from the seeds from first run or is it better to use another male (prefferably the auto) to do polination for 2nd generation, or would that dominize the trait i wanted from the regular strain too much?

@puffman: the WW was just an example im not actualy trying to make ww auto, as you stated it is allready available but just used it cause its known
i was planning on my own regular strain but unfortunatly the only seeds i had left were probably to old and not stored well all the time and none germed anymore so lost that strain for good wich is shame cause it was a homemade strain with good yield and excellent smoke (was a cross with PP and other i dont remember wich) but i allready had low hopes as the seeds were aproximately 13yrs old

am still in doubt what strain to use .. i do know what breeder i will get seeds from though. it will be rare dankness even though i have read they dont have good costumer support, they do have excellent strains and would love to see an auto of that in my backyard in a few years

i have a question about what is best to chose male or female on two strains of wich one is auto and other isnt and i want to cross te regular and the auto to make a auto strain with characteristics of the regular strain

example:

i have a lowryder 2 and a regular white widow and would wanna make an auto white widow

should i be using the pollen of the auto and the female white widow or polinate the lowryder 2 with the WW pollen

what is best if i want to keep the auto part of the lowryder but the bud type from the WW
or doesnt it matter and in both cases you have same chance to find pheno types with those two characteristics??


hope you understand what i mean and can tell me if there is a differrence in it or not and ifso what is best


greets belial[/QUOTE]
Just putting this out there. I'm guessing autoflowering isnt a dominant but a recessive trait.