Members
A warning. I have been a moderator for years. My goal was to bring civility to the forum. It was a mess with contentious people, trolls and mean I mean really mean moderators. I took a lot of pain along the way.
The internet and forums are not what they use to be. Control is the key word. Our present staff mod (I am not a staff moderator--just given moderator tag to appease me). Most of old moderators and founding members have left.
Copyright law--says fair use is defined by educational use. We use links to educate members and learn.
I put up a post about using hash to make concentrate. Very lively thread and pleased to see so much participation.
I deleted. And I shall never be an active member with AFN. It just isn't worth it--I mean everyone I know is gone and moderators are new and have no understanding of what AFN was--at one time.
Here is the warning--the following is a real patronizing, crude and subtly hostile email received from a staff moderator.
The link was five years old archived from another site--where many here purchases pipes etc. It is not even an active link. It was a dead link--archived.
One individual left a great recipe. To give him some credit and not to violate his copyright (all comments can be argued as copy righted unless site specifically states: Your comments are intellectual property of x site).
Now--one could put up a link to troll or to attempt to market the site or product. Those kind of links pop up often--wild comments about buying Viagra or LED's etc.
But--using an innocent old pleasant forum link is not--an intentional act of sabotage towards AFN. It is an attempt to give credit where credit is due. It is ethical and a very thoughtful thing to do.
Here for your considerations the email I received. It is your warning too. Notice the highlighted language. In the past---this sort of email was sent to a very active new member--he got real upset and for over a month he instigated a denial of service and nearly destroyed AFN. Forums are vulnerable and if enough people get pissed they can cause lots of problems right down to LE and flooding AFN commercial sponsor with questions about their support of AFN.
So--how would you react if this was received as a nearly five year member. So--patronizing it is almost funny. An attempt at professionalism with a big bite. No hard feelings---right! Piss in my wheaties--WTF does that mean.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
hey brother
Case, not trying to piss in your wheaties. In your post yesterday, in hash and edibles section, Calling all experienced -concentration chefs, post #15, you gave a link off site. As a courtesy, I need to tell you that I have been asked to edit it out. Its against the rules to post links off site and you have been around long enough to know that. No hard feeling, but we have plenty of information here on site and if not, start a thread to help educate and keep members here, please. Thanks man!
You be the judge. Was this an email to assert control or a patronizing--putting GCase in his place attack.
The link was so innocent. PM me and I will share with you.
There is little free speech on AFN anymore----I will continue to post this if removed. For your freedom of speech is being quashed. But--AFN is not a democracy it is a privately owned forum. So a policy like removing non commercial educational links is---an ownship issue. Moderators are unpaid arms of the owner. Policy assert is an ownership deal. Either take it or walk.
A warning. I have been a moderator for years. My goal was to bring civility to the forum. It was a mess with contentious people, trolls and mean I mean really mean moderators. I took a lot of pain along the way.
The internet and forums are not what they use to be. Control is the key word. Our present staff mod (I am not a staff moderator--just given moderator tag to appease me). Most of old moderators and founding members have left.
Copyright law--says fair use is defined by educational use. We use links to educate members and learn.
I put up a post about using hash to make concentrate. Very lively thread and pleased to see so much participation.
I deleted. And I shall never be an active member with AFN. It just isn't worth it--I mean everyone I know is gone and moderators are new and have no understanding of what AFN was--at one time.
Here is the warning--the following is a real patronizing, crude and subtly hostile email received from a staff moderator.
The link was five years old archived from another site--where many here purchases pipes etc. It is not even an active link. It was a dead link--archived.
One individual left a great recipe. To give him some credit and not to violate his copyright (all comments can be argued as copy righted unless site specifically states: Your comments are intellectual property of x site).
Now--one could put up a link to troll or to attempt to market the site or product. Those kind of links pop up often--wild comments about buying Viagra or LED's etc.
But--using an innocent old pleasant forum link is not--an intentional act of sabotage towards AFN. It is an attempt to give credit where credit is due. It is ethical and a very thoughtful thing to do.
Here for your considerations the email I received. It is your warning too. Notice the highlighted language. In the past---this sort of email was sent to a very active new member--he got real upset and for over a month he instigated a denial of service and nearly destroyed AFN. Forums are vulnerable and if enough people get pissed they can cause lots of problems right down to LE and flooding AFN commercial sponsor with questions about their support of AFN.
So--how would you react if this was received as a nearly five year member. So--patronizing it is almost funny. An attempt at professionalism with a big bite. No hard feelings---right! Piss in my wheaties--WTF does that mean.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
hey brother
Case, not trying to piss in your wheaties. In your post yesterday, in hash and edibles section, Calling all experienced -concentration chefs, post #15, you gave a link off site. As a courtesy, I need to tell you that I have been asked to edit it out. Its against the rules to post links off site and you have been around long enough to know that. No hard feeling, but we have plenty of information here on site and if not, start a thread to help educate and keep members here, please. Thanks man!
You be the judge. Was this an email to assert control or a patronizing--putting GCase in his place attack.
The link was so innocent. PM me and I will share with you.
There is little free speech on AFN anymore----I will continue to post this if removed. For your freedom of speech is being quashed. But--AFN is not a democracy it is a privately owned forum. So a policy like removing non commercial educational links is---an ownship issue. Moderators are unpaid arms of the owner. Policy assert is an ownership deal. Either take it or walk.
Last edited:
