Live Stoner Chat Live Stoner Chat - Jan-Mar '25

[Fermented_Fruitz]

 

[PinkyNotTheBrain]

Well, all 3 Doctors talking about me getting out tomorrow so fingers crossed. So sick of being here doing nothing. At least at home I could do little things as I felt like doing em.
Evening Kittens and Frank
Damn cold about done and we got a warm week coming up. Finally got info for final divorce payment which goes to the courts but zelle payment fails so gotta call bank and find out WTF.

Glad you're gettin out dude

 

[KingRatt]

Drought stress is a common one. The idea isn't that you're just stressing the plants, but providing very specific, intentional types of stress in efforts to produce a desired response.

Here's some literature on early flower drought stress in industrial hemp:

Effects of short-term environmental stresses on the onset of cannabinoid production in young immature flowers of industrial hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) - PubMed

Although this observation is limited in the early flowering stage, the common field stresses are adequate to induce changes in the cannabinoid profiles, particularly drought stress being the most impactful stress for hemp flower initiation with the altering the cannabinoid production by...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Here's the conclusion from it because I know most of you won't read that:



And remember when they talk about increases of anything (or in this case CBG,) that some of these cannabinoids exist in VERY LOW concentrations to begin with. So a 40% increase of something that may actually be 1% (or lower) of the total picture could be very negligible, or very impactful (CBN for example, there is like just this TINY amount of CBN that is actually produced in most cannabis plants (usually around 0.2% or less), but growers are like "THC converts to CBN when you let it go too long" when we talk about harvest window. Let that sink in.

There are all sorts of wild ideas of how to increase cannabinoids, some more valid than other, but the problem is that so much of it is anecdotal. I think (in my own opinion,) that there aren't many last minute techniques that are going to bring a drastic change/shift of those cannabinoids during the last week of flower. It typically takes weeks for trichomes to form and mature, not just by color, but the cannabinoids inside them concentrating and producing at various capacities.

There are things you can do though that are fairly well explainable and testable by science but not necessarily about creating more potent pot, like dropping temperature in the grow space the last few weeks, which increases natural synthesis and accumulation of anthocyanins in the plant (which gives the plants colorful hues.) That's different than color expression from genetics though (meaning little tricks like those won't give you the same results as naturally purple or red cannabis plants, etc.)

Nutrient stress (essentially stopping all nutrition if feeding towards the end) can stress induce senescence (like in fall when leaves change color and fall) which can decrease chlorophyll production and the amount of chlorophyll in the leaves (as it breaks down.)

There's a grower in the Mendel's Facebook group that is experimenting with finishing his flowering plants with different spectrum (which there's plenty of literature on how spectrum effects flowering, etc.)

I think taking the best care of your plants while they grow that you can, and supply silica and P and K in adequate amounts during flower help produce the most trichomes. Te only thing i suggest to make sure they are their most potent is to harvest at the end of a dark period so there is no degradation from lights all day!

 

[Bill.de.Cat]

U getting tired of powdered eggs?

I get the pancakes

 

[Bill.de.Cat]

Glad you're gettin out dude

Fingers crossed

 

[Cerebral Goo]

Such an amazing moment in sports!

 

[JP1]

Drought stress is a common one. The idea isn't that you're just stressing the plants, but providing very specific, intentional types of stress in efforts to produce a desired response.

Here's some literature on early flower drought stress in industrial hemp:

Effects of short-term environmental stresses on the onset of cannabinoid production in young immature flowers of industrial hemp (Cannabis sativa L.) - PubMed

Although this observation is limited in the early flowering stage, the common field stresses are adequate to induce changes in the cannabinoid profiles, particularly drought stress being the most impactful stress for hemp flower initiation with the altering the cannabinoid production by...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Here's the conclusion from it because I know most of you won't read that:



And remember when they talk about increases of anything (or in this case CBG,) that some of these cannabinoids exist in VERY LOW concentrations to begin with. So a 40% increase of something that may actually be 1% (or lower) of the total picture could be very negligible, or very impactful (CBN for example, there is like just this TINY amount of CBN that is actually produced in most cannabis plants (usually around 0.2% or less), but growers are like "THC converts to CBN when you let it go too long" when we talk about harvest window. Let that sink in.

There are all sorts of wild ideas of how to increase cannabinoids, some more valid than other, but the problem is that so much of it is anecdotal. I think (in my own opinion,) that there aren't many last minute techniques that are going to bring a drastic change/shift of those cannabinoids during the last week of flower. It typically takes weeks for trichomes to form and mature, not just by color, but the cannabinoids inside them concentrating and producing at various capacities.

There are things you can do though that are fairly well explainable and testable by science but not necessarily about creating more potent pot, like dropping temperature in the grow space the last few weeks, which increases natural synthesis and accumulation of anthocyanins in the plant (which gives the plants colorful hues.) That's different than color expression from genetics though (meaning little tricks like those won't give you the same results as naturally purple or red cannabis plants, etc.)

Nutrient stress (essentially stopping all nutrition if feeding towards the end) can stress induce senescence (like in fall when leaves change color and fall) which can decrease chlorophyll production and the amount of chlorophyll in the leaves (as it breaks down.)

There's a grower in the Mendel's Facebook group that is experimenting with finishing his flowering plants with different spectrum (which there's plenty of literature on how spectrum effects flowering, etc.)

I grow hydro. So they always get the nutrient stress. I've done the temp drop before but it doesn't seem to do really much for me other then purple the leaves (and they look like shit from it). Drought also seems to just kill off the leaves. I'm just figuring terpene production is a stress response, so maybe I could stimulate that late in flower since the plants know the end is near at that point anyway. And messing with the lights is easy. Thinking about cutting the light off for 15 minutes every hour and rolling it for 24 hours. And running the UVA for 30 minutes per hour. But I'm not a believer in UVA at all

 

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@Bill.de.Cat - Good luck mang!

 

[Fermented_Fruitz]

I get the pancakes

 

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