Lil'Stick , Wedding CK, Russian Queen 2024 by MOG.

[VitaMan]

I've been on the fence (butt hurts ) for ages with these floraflex caps.

Obviously made for grodan and coco but I was imagining ways to make them work for 6" baskets of hydroton to more evenly disperse the liquid.

Do you think I could make them fit? Round holes square pegs situation.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I've been on the fence (butt hurts ) for ages with these floraflex caps.

Obviously made for grodan and coco but I was imagining ways to make them work for 6" baskets of hydroton to more evenly disperse the liquid.

Do you think I could make them fit? Round holes square pegs situation.

No, and a waste of time.

I know that it looks like a Floraflex cap will distribute the water over the media more evenly but that is not going to happen unless you are watering with a garden hose volume. The drip emitter drops simply run into the nearest hole. I tried running 1/4 lines without emmiters and there was not even close enough volume with two lines to flood the top of the cap.



There are a lot of better solutions, I would consider leaky hose. This stuff is cheap and you can use as long a piece as you need to deliver the amount of water you need.

 

[VitaMan]

No, and a waste of time.

I know that it looks like a Floraflex cap will distribute the water over the media more evenly but that is not going to happen unless you are watering with a garden hose volume. The drip emitter drops simply run into the nearest hole. I tried running 1/4 lines without emmiters and there was not even close enough volume with two lines to flood the top of the cap.

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There are a lot of better solutions, I would consider leaky hose. This stuff is cheap and you can use as long a piece as you need to deliver the amount of water you need.

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Thanks. You saved me a few bucks.

I thought the soaker hoses might get crusty on the bottom and slimy on top...went with sprinklers.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I dodged a bullet on this grow last night, OMG on my way to bed I peeked into the tent and noticed the reservoir was still full Sure enough the pump had failed and I could not find the back-up anywhere, put shoes on and searched the garage. I should have put on a jacket because I got cold, no pump. I guess the back-up was the one I was using? I had to hand fertigate before I went to bed and when I got up to go pee twice through the night. Just glad I noticed.

I have had two Vivosun pumps fail in less than a year each. I will not be buying that brand again.

I got a CreekStone pump on sale at Harbor Freight for $32.50. I have the smallest CreekStone pump running a water feature in my yard. It runs 24/7/365 All of the Humming Birds and others rely on it for fresh water to drink and bathe. Those little $14 pumps have lasted 2 years each, I have gone through 3 in the past 5 years. The current pump is about a year old. I have a back-up in stock.

I made the 620GPH into a bottom pick-up by just cutting the filter housing and lying it on its side. This way it will pump down to less than an inch of depth. Only time will tell how long it will last?

Pictures tomorrow.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Time for some pictures.

 

[Entombed]

Man, you've had some bad luck with this grow with the germ issues & pump failure. Cool setup you have. Looks well engineered. Hopefully the rest of the time is smooth growing.

 

[BII]

The largest plant (the last picture) looks to have a lot of productive stems crowded and shaded within those hoops. I'd pull down and out/LST the branches to better expose the bud sites. Any reason you don't do this; don't have the space? What do the hoops/cage do for larger plants (such as here where the plant looks to have outgrown its cage)?

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Man, you've had some bad luck with this grow with the germ issues & pump failure. Cool setup you have. Looks well engineered. Hopefully the rest of the time is smooth growing.

The largest plant (the last picture) looks to have a lot of productive stems crowded and shaded within those hoops. I'd pull down and out/LST the branches to better expose the bud sites. Any reason you don't do this; don't have the space? What do the hoops/cage do for larger plants (such as here where the plant looks to have outgrown its cage)?

Thanks for the well wishes, but farming is always full of left turns and obstacles. I try to plan for it but shit happens. I don't know what happened with the beans this time. when I cut them open they were rotted. so too much water, a pathogen or just old/poor seeds without the strength to grow. This also is part of farming.

@BII Well I am just too lazy, I don't need more than I grow with this method. My yields g/m² often beats the advertised yields. My lights are powerful enough to penetrate deep in the canopy. My buds get well formed and hopefully not too dense.

 

[BII]

Rather than think of targeted yield in terms of g/m² I generally think in terms of grams/day of growth per plant, targeting ≥1.2 g/day. Such as I want to see at least 3 oz. from a plant if harvest at day 70, a quarter pound after 90 days, etc. Rarely does a plant not meet these goals.

This way of assessing yield (and light productivity) might be something to consider using when instructing newbies. The g/m² metric is just a minimum based only on the light fixture, does not vary with length of the grow.

 

[BII]

@BII Well I am just too lazy, I don't need more than I grow with this method. My yields g/m² often beats the advertised yields. My lights are powerful enough to penetrate deep in the canopy. My buds get well formed and hopefully not too dense.

So you are happy (enough) with the inner buds receiving less light than others would tolerate (such as those doing intense defoliation, LST to spread out the plant, etc.).

Do you believe there is any decrease in quality or potency with the inner vs. outer/exposed buds? If one has lights with good penetration, in your view is it just bro science, folklore, unproven, etc. that buds need direct light to reach optimal quality/potency?