Indoor Journal-White Widow (Ministry of Cannabis)-Second Grow
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Chop!
Last night (Day 65), I chopped.
The objective (other than the obvious) of this second grow of WW was to see whether I could avoid the mistakes of the first grow, while really pushing the nutes hard. I succeeded on the first part, but made other mistakes. I think in general I have a problem "managing" (?)the transition from vegging to flowering.) There is something wrong with either my timing or nute dosing. Oh well, there's always the next grow (now underway).
In terms of nute aggressiveness, my conclusion is that for me, the risk/benefit just isn't there. Sure, yield may increase slightly but in the final analysis, you can't force feed your plants. When you push the nutes hard, it places the grow on a knife's edge. Every minor problem seems to worsen more quickly and with greater intensity. Worse, there are new problems generally of a systemic (plant-wide) nature that are more frequently encountered. For example, with more normal levels of nutes, letting your soil dry out too much is easily remedied. At higher nute levels, the possibility of root tip burn increases because as the moisture decreases, the concentration of nutes in the soil increases causing root burn. Then your plant goes crazy presenting a new deficiency every other day. Me, being a conscientious grower, jumps on each treating the apparent deficiency as sepaprate until i figure it out (I think). But by then, the soil is screwed up royally. Or you have premature salting of the soil causing lockout. IMO, the benefit does not outweigh the risk.
Sometimes I think Pogo (old comic strip) had it right: "We've seen the enemy and he is us." Can this be true of growing as well?
Sounds like a bad grow --- not at all.
The first grow yielded 4.7 zips. Unless I am way wrong, the yield is going to be considerably better than this. But I do not believe much of this anticipated increase in yield can be attributed to nute aggressiveness. Stay tuned...
Here is one (of two) of the plants on chop day:
Here's the take (minus one medium cola that I mistakenly left in the cabinet and what I've already smoked (weighed wet)):
I wanted to overlap grows so I did a Macguyver to create a light trap (sort of) so I can dry at the same time I have a seedling/small plant growing. The first image shows the cabinet, the other(s) show the light trap in place. (The screening on top reduces the amount of light bouncing off the mylar walls into the drying chamber.) The drying chamber is very dark.
The single 5 gallon pot has Wild Thai Ryder germinating.
Last night (Day 65), I chopped.
The objective (other than the obvious) of this second grow of WW was to see whether I could avoid the mistakes of the first grow, while really pushing the nutes hard. I succeeded on the first part, but made other mistakes. I think in general I have a problem "managing" (?)the transition from vegging to flowering.) There is something wrong with either my timing or nute dosing. Oh well, there's always the next grow (now underway).
In terms of nute aggressiveness, my conclusion is that for me, the risk/benefit just isn't there. Sure, yield may increase slightly but in the final analysis, you can't force feed your plants. When you push the nutes hard, it places the grow on a knife's edge. Every minor problem seems to worsen more quickly and with greater intensity. Worse, there are new problems generally of a systemic (plant-wide) nature that are more frequently encountered. For example, with more normal levels of nutes, letting your soil dry out too much is easily remedied. At higher nute levels, the possibility of root tip burn increases because as the moisture decreases, the concentration of nutes in the soil increases causing root burn. Then your plant goes crazy presenting a new deficiency every other day. Me, being a conscientious grower, jumps on each treating the apparent deficiency as sepaprate until i figure it out (I think). But by then, the soil is screwed up royally. Or you have premature salting of the soil causing lockout. IMO, the benefit does not outweigh the risk.
Sometimes I think Pogo (old comic strip) had it right: "We've seen the enemy and he is us." Can this be true of growing as well?
Sounds like a bad grow --- not at all.
The first grow yielded 4.7 zips. Unless I am way wrong, the yield is going to be considerably better than this. But I do not believe much of this anticipated increase in yield can be attributed to nute aggressiveness. Stay tuned...
Here is one (of two) of the plants on chop day:
Here's the take (minus one medium cola that I mistakenly left in the cabinet and what I've already smoked (weighed wet)):
I wanted to overlap grows so I did a Macguyver to create a light trap (sort of) so I can dry at the same time I have a seedling/small plant growing. The first image shows the cabinet, the other(s) show the light trap in place. (The screening on top reduces the amount of light bouncing off the mylar walls into the drying chamber.) The drying chamber is very dark.
The single 5 gallon pot has Wild Thai Ryder germinating.
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Weigh-in!
I have a lot of positive thoughts about this grow, not the least of which was the yield. After a final trim, it went into the jars at 156g/5.5oz.
I'm sold on Boveda packs. The herb over dried in the cabinet but using two packs in each .5 gal jar has restored their gooey-ness. Smell is good although maybe less pungent than if it not dried out so much.
I'm also sold on dumping Fox Farm soil. Sure, really low ph can be easily fixed, but IMO you shouldn't have to. I just don't want to reward companies who can't maintain quality.
Anybody have a recommendation for a soil which is ph consistent right from the bag and good at maintaining proper ph range?
My Wild Thai Ryder just poked her head up on the fifth day of being in soil. Here we go ...!
I have a lot of positive thoughts about this grow, not the least of which was the yield. After a final trim, it went into the jars at 156g/5.5oz.
I'm sold on Boveda packs. The herb over dried in the cabinet but using two packs in each .5 gal jar has restored their gooey-ness. Smell is good although maybe less pungent than if it not dried out so much.
I'm also sold on dumping Fox Farm soil. Sure, really low ph can be easily fixed, but IMO you shouldn't have to. I just don't want to reward companies who can't maintain quality.
Anybody have a recommendation for a soil which is ph consistent right from the bag and good at maintaining proper ph range?
My Wild Thai Ryder just poked her head up on the fifth day of being in soil. Here we go ...!
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Nice yield, Bayes. Those buds look beast! I'm with you on the Bovedas. I couldn't imagine curing without them. About 
soil, I can't blame you. I've been working with some new release supersoils that test great initially, but one is prototype (Coast of Maine release candidate) and the other is a new company.. Every bag of soil that comes into my place gets a series of pH tests before it hits a bucket. I reckon the mixing systems they are using aren't exactly mixing to scientific accuracy, so you can see a big swing from bag to bag. I just got a bag of Sunshine#4 soil that was spot on at 6.5 pH. Makes me want to attack the pallet at the hydro store with my soil meter...lolol Best of growing out that WTR!
soil, I can't blame you. I've been working with some new release supersoils that test great initially, but one is prototype (Coast of Maine release candidate) and the other is a new company.. Every bag of soil that comes into my place gets a series of pH tests before it hits a bucket. I reckon the mixing systems they are using aren't exactly mixing to scientific accuracy, so you can see a big swing from bag to bag. I just got a bag of Sunshine#4 soil that was spot on at 6.5 pH. Makes me want to attack the pallet at the hydro store with my soil meter...lolol Best of growing out that WTR!During this grow I used a Hanna to test runoff, then checked the "reasonableness" of the Hanna with drops. As the WTR seed was floating, I received an Accurate 8 soil tester and tested the prepared soil (HF and OF). Now I know for sure how low can be..
I'll take a look at Sunshine #4, thanks.
Anybody else with a recommendation?
soil (HF and OF). Now I know for sure how low can be..I'll take a look at Sunshine #4, thanks.
Anybody else with a recommendation?
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