New Grower journal autoflower led 20-4 kindsoil roottrapper breathable

[Noob420]

I would top it down further, possibly to the height you want it, and then you can top the other tops also and then tie it down from there.
Pictures would paint us a better picture to give better advice. Without seeing what is really going on we can really just give generic options for you.

 

[Noob420]

what type of space are you working with. I would leave everyone under the lights and train the photos to get the most out of the them. You can also raise your autos closer to the light so they are not in the shadows. Once the autos are done or close to done change the light cycle to 12/12. Seeds get expensive and I would try to get the most out of everything.
Moving 8 pants back and fourth seems like a pain, but this is your grow and I'm just trying to give you suggestions to get the most out of your plants.

 

[Frankthetank]

so 12-12 is best for the photo plants?

Photo plants are called that because they are photo sensitive. Meaning....they rely on cues from the length of the day to know when to flower. In theory....you plant when the days are long (we're talking outdoors under the natural sunlight) and as the season progresses and the days get shorter (and longer nights) it triggers the plant to flower.

On the other hand....auto's are cross bred with the ruderalis strain (think hemp) which has a set length of its life. Meaning....it will start to flower automatically at a certain age (some say height...but my personal opinion is it is age) no matter how long the day/night.

Remember...your photo plants will stretch 2-3 times the size it is when you induce flowering. How tall is your grow space? You have to keep in mind that the longer you let the photo plants veg...the bigger they will get during flower. We're talking RAPID growth at times (usually for the first 3-4 weeks of flower). So...you should have a plan for how big your plants are about to be. Its important to keep them out of the lights (did you say you're running COBS??? If so...this is not a huge thing to worry about, because the COBs won't burn them).

You're auto's will still flower at 12/12. The optimal light schedule is somewhere between 18/6 and 20/4. Flowering them at 12/12 will diminish the yield of the auto's, but it is what it is at this point.

I hope this at least gives you a start in the right direction....

EDIT: it is VERY important your photo plants receive 12 hours of TOTAL darkness. If you're planning on moving them in and out of the tent make sure you are putting them in a completely dark space for the "nighttime".

 

[hello]

great help from all. thanks

 

[hello]

I changed to 18-6 light for auto.thanks to advise on here. 20-4 is said to be wasted energy.

 

[hello]

heres my pics. bad pics like always. I don't have any good tech devices for better pics.

 

[hello]

what type light can I use that wont disturb plants in the dark.? since im moving plants in the dark.
is it okay to keep seeds in top shelf of fridgerator, in Ziploc? until I can use them.

 

[Frankthetank]

what type light can I use that wont disturb plants in the dark.? since im moving plants in the dark.
is it okay to keep seeds in top shelf of fridgerator, in Ziploc? until I can use them.

You can use a green bulb (home depot, ace hardware, etc) during the dark hours and not disturb the plants. Thats fine for the seeds, but in my opinion the refrigerator is unneeded. The important thing is to keep them dry. If you're set on using the 'fridge, then so be it, it won't hurt anything.

EDIT: I was just looking over your pics, and re-reading your first post....do you know what the total output of your light is? Also...let me get this straight. You put the kind soil in the pot then tilted it, thus running the kind soil up the side of the pot so the roots are getting to it faster?

Bottom line is, something is stunting those plants. Weather they are under watered, or the soil is to hot. I'm not a cob expert, admittedly. Maybe @BigSm0 could take a look at the cob set up you've got going and give his two cents.

I really want to help you get this figured out! Once we figure out why they are stunted, I think you'll be all set.

 

[hello]

im getting 3 more ready, I will not tilt the kindsoil anymore. that could be a issue.
I think maybe a candle will be good for night light working. I doubt you can grow with a fire flame,so that couldn't effect plants.
soil temp good and I feel safe with water methods. since ive been through that. but I should hear other peoples water styles.
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I assume companys fridge seed, but I don't think it needs to be cold. I didn't know how long they would sit so I thought top shelf in fridge might be safe spot.I assume its not as cold at top.
one time I tried to reuse my kindsoil and cocoloco after a grow before and that made some bad stunting happen, but it was obvious what I did.

 

[Frankthetank]

I think maybe a candle will be good for night light working. I doubt you can grow with a fire flame,so that couldn't effect plants.

The way I look at it...as long as whatever light you're using is less bright than the brightest full moon....then it shouldn't stress/re-veg them (in theory...).

one time I tried to reuse my kindsoil and cocoloco after a grow before and that made some bad stunting happen, but it was obvious what I did.

Ya...I tried to reuse kind soil also...with bad results. To tell you the truth I used the kind soil for a handful of grows and let it go. It never performed the way it should. I had problems in all but one grow. It never killed any plants, and the bud I got from every grow with it was always very frosty. That being said, I always felt that something was missing. Again....just telling you my experience. I do think with enough experience you could make it work (and some type of root myco's). It will just be a struggle to find out what will work with your situation, if you know what I mean.