I want to experiment! WARNING this might be the dumbest thing you ever read!

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Hey guys!

I'm going to start off by saying if you are easily annoyed by idiots push backspace right now!

I was thinking in january I will have done my first grow. (and start my second)
Thing is I want to stay an indoor grower. (I don't want to start stinking up my garden for my neighbours to smell that delicious odor)

BUT I do want to start breeding experiments in my garden, then my first question would ofcourse be how bad does breeding smell?
By which I mean since I would be pollinating the mother plant and she won't be flowering as much as a grow to smoke?

Second thing is I want to go a completely different way in breeding cannabis then is normally done right now.
As probably 99.9% of this forum knows cannabis is the future in many ways.
Yet I see a lot of people breeding according to getting big, high yield, potent, etc.. plants
All in all a very (I think) narrow minded way of growing/breeding for a plant capable of so many variation.

NO that's not what I want to start doing basically I want to give birth to a completely new strain of cannabis.
One more robust then an autoflower. Maybe one that doesn't need a lot of light, one that can survive in extremely cold temperatures, maybe even live through winters with lots of snow, one that survives for years and maybe even be harvested like a tree with cannabis as a fruit? (probably cutting of it's branches so that it will regrow new one's with new buds)
This would be a plant where I wouldn't care the slightest bit about potency nor yield.

Why? Because I believe if I can achieve such a thing and would be able to breed that with regular kinds of cannabis (like how autoflowers were created) and slowly start upping the potency of those plants... Do I even have to explain at this point?

I know either somebody is already doing this or I'm a mad man.
It's just this idea I have. Don't shoot me for having ideas please! (well I warned you at the start)

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO anyone think I might succeed? I don't care if it would take YEARS or maybe even my entire life. If this could work.. the possibilities would be endless!
 
Ohhh I bet you want to kill me by now.. :D
 
Hi Illbethere, I have not found and difference in the amount of odor produced by plants pollinated vs. non-pollinated, I think it is really strain dependent

Any selective breeding program will be based on improving specific plant characteristics that interest the breeder. Pick what is of interest to you and go for it. There are canna varieties that can live for more than one season and lots of breeders keep mother plants in veg for years to provide clones for their breeding programs.

Go for it, one of the great things about canna breeding is that you can still smoke the mistakes!
 
mmmmmm I think I might be taking it inside a shed then.. or maybe build some kind of box that can contain the smell with glass for the sun to come through.

Thing is I know about mother plants and all that and some strains that are able (in the right climate) to grow over a year long.

I am going to do a bunch of research and come back here every once in a while. Ask questions etc..
 
I'm trying to grasp what it is you are wanting to achieve.
I'm also trying to grasp how breeding for traits like height, yield, potency, taste, flavor, and smell is narrow minded when in fact that's exactly what breeding is...

And in most breeding, more than one of those traits is usually locked in to achieve what the grower wants. I just don't see how it's narrow minded, that's all.
 
I'm trying to grasp what it is you are wanting to achieve.
I'm also trying to grasp how breeding for traits like height, yield, potency, taste, flavor, and smell is narrow minded when in fact that's exactly what breeding is...

And in most breeding, more than one of those traits is usually locked in to achieve what the grower wants. I just don't see how it's narrow minded, that's all.

I'm sorry what I meant was that I see a lot of people heading the same way and I want to take a different road in breeding.
Maybe saying "narrow" minded was a bit too much I had one of those spur of the moment ideas ;)
 
If you can create something that is snow-resilient, I'll gladly ask you "how much for a ten pack?"

I recommend you buy some Canadian genetics and go from there. Compared to other countries in the north, I think those guys have created the best cold weather-resilient strains on the planet. That would at least give you a jump start on your cold-weather goal. I think those genes would at least save you a couple years of acclimation.

keep us updated
 
Go for it... But.. just so you know..

You are going to have to grow a very large amount of plants at once to find the traits you are looking for. Then you will have to hope the trait passes on easily or you may end up growing thousands of F1s just to find that the trait did not pass on or is recessive and wont show until future generations..

Im not saying to not try but you should know that what you are talking about doing will be a long process that may fail in the end. Good luck though
 
Wow. Not sure the traits he/she is looking for even exist. Oops, I mean I am certain they do not. Therein lies his/her problem. Automatic cannabis already existed, it was just sort of worked over to the benefit of us all. Thank God for those narrow minded breeders (!). Certainly to turn cannabis into a fruit bearing evergreen will be the journey of all journeys. Go crazy man.
 
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