Indoor Hope's perpetual Skyline grow

[Sawney_bean]

Here is a plant with a twist in the leaf.

 

[hope2grow]

I must say.. buying this ph pen has been a watershed moment for me.. not because I can now put my feed in at the right numbers.. but because I've been left wondering what my soil plants might have been like had I have did that with them from the start. I mean I've switched to rockwool in pursuit of better yields primarily and now I'm left wondering if id have got the yields I wanted from my soil plants had I measured and adjusted what went into them!!

After 10+ years of putting my faith in AN Sensi in soil and getting lots of great plants I can only assume that the soil was able to buffer enough for that to happen cuz the AN ph promise hasnt been working in that time!! But still surely if I'd put the feed in at the right ph my results would have been considerably better??

I feel like I owe it to myself to do another soil grow.. feeding correctly.. to find out

 

[hope2grow]

The twist in you're leaves are just a genetic trait. I see it all the time in indica dominant strains and it's always on the first few sets of bottom leaves but doesn't continue.
Can't wait to see the woosh soon

Thank you my man.. can't wait for the woosh myself.. pump switched on this morning for the first time :smoking:

 

[Sawney_bean]

I must say.. buying this ph pen has been a watershed moment for me.. not because I can now put my feed in at the right numbers.. but because I've been left wondering what my soil plants might have been like had I have did that with them from the start. I mean I've switched to rockwool in pursuit of better yields primarily and now I'm left wondering if id have got the yields I wanted from my soil plants had I measured and adjusted what went into them!!

After 10+ years of putting my faith in AN Sensi in soil and getting lots of great plants I can only assume that the soil was able to buffer enough for that to happen cuz the AN ph promise hasnt been working in that time!! But still surely if I'd put the feed in at the right ph my results would have been considerably better??

I feel like I owe it to myself to do another soil grow.. feeding correctly.. to find out

Coco would work to mate. Soil may have more nutes in it at the start where you may need to adjust the veg nutes for a week or two ? . I had trouble with bottle nutes and soil , but mind you I fit have the magic pen

 

[Sawney_bean]

There are plenty pics of the new strains on my page mate.

 

[Teetee]

It's probably best you got into pH now, rather than earlier..... you've honed your skillz without complicating the issue too much. You would have got too deep into the amateur chemistry stressing about pH going in and run off pH, which can be confused by the underlying pH of the medium and all the pH rollercoaster of adjusting the feed alternately with pH up and down, then watching the pH fly off in all directions while the EC steadily rises etc etc etc
I use House and Garden nutes, and they have this product called 'pH stabilizer'. Early on I thought I'd give it a go, I was getting jealous of you AN growers not having to worry about pH!
It was such a pain in the arse, it settled the pH up in the 6.5 region, and even then after a day of sitting in a bucket, the pH would change, all it did was up the EC so I had to lower the strength of my A&B to compensate, reducing the amount of useful nute getting to the plants. There was no difference using it or not!
Some might say that the stabilized pH is deliberately more alkaline than the desired 5.8 to compensate for the acidity in the medium, but that's when you get into headfuck territory - I decided to keep it simple and I never used it again!
I'm wondering if AN have done something similar to their stuff, adding a pH stabilizer that sets the pH to a level that works with the pH of the medium to make the overall pH 5.8??? Maybe that's why they do separate nutes for soil/coco/hydro cos they all have slightly different pH requirements? I dunno, I'm just another stoner full of BS!
Makes me think that you won't see a drastic difference if you did a soil grow now you're measuring pH cos you've been such a succesful grower anyway, the AN stuff worked well for you Bro.

How you getting on vaping?

 

[Zaaboot]

Looking good Hope, glad to see the pumps are on for the first time, what is your schedule on watering?
With the PH, I can only agree with Teetee, you grew some stunners with limited measurement, now you have the toys you can really get in to the finer detail - I think we have discussed it before but I always float my PH from 5.8 to 6.2 because I need to adhere to the voices in my head

Maybe that's why they do separate nutes for soil/coco/hydro

Exactly sir - they all have their own requirements based on the medium - e.g a good coco nutrient will tend to have extra Ca and Mg, and the clever ones will also have an extra shot extra Iron. Coco tends to absorb calcium and nitrogen while releasing potassium and holds on to elements making some nutrients unavailable. The different bottles and how they are put together helps with this (another reason a lot of companies and 2 or 3 part solutions).

I feel like I owe it to myself to do another soil grow

shit man - in debt to the growing gods

 

[hope2grow]

It's probably best you got into pH now, rather than earlier..... you've honed your skillz without complicating the issue too much. You would have got too deep into the amateur chemistry stressing about pH going in and run off pH, which can be confused by the underlying pH of the medium and all the pH rollercoaster of adjusting the feed alternately with pH up and down, then watching the pH fly off in all directions while the EC steadily rises etc etc etc
I use House and Garden nutes, and they have this product called 'pH stabilizer'. Early on I thought I'd give it a go, I was getting jealous of you AN growers not having to worry about pH!
It was such a pain in the arse, it settled the pH up in the 6.5 region, and even then after a day of sitting in a bucket, the pH would change, all it did was up the EC so I had to lower the strength of my A&B to compensate, reducing the amount of useful nute getting to the plants. There was no difference using it or not!
Some might say that the stabilized pH is deliberately more alkaline than the desired 5.8 to compensate for the acidity in the medium, but that's when you get into headfuck territory - I decided to keep it simple and I never used it again!
I'm wondering if AN have done something similar to their stuff, adding a pH stabilizer that sets the pH to a level that works with the pH of the medium to make the overall pH 5.8??? Maybe that's why they do separate nutes for soil/coco/hydro cos they all have slightly different pH requirements? I dunno, I'm just another stoner full of BS!
Makes me think that you won't see a drastic difference if you did a soil grow now you're measuring pH cos you've been such a succesful grower anyway, the AN stuff worked well for you Bro.

How you getting on vaping?

OK m8 but I find I only get maybe 7/8 good vapes and I have to refill the vape cuz it holds so little weed. Minor complaint.. overall I like it but it's gonna take a bit of getting used to.

I'm tormented with numbers atm tbh lol ec and ph chasing.. hoping my patience holds! I can't stop ph rising in the res and always having to adjust it is already a bit of a pain in the ass if I'm honest.. its a never ending chase atm!!

I sound like I'm talking myself into ditching this already but that's not the case lol just having a moan although it has to be said that for hands off simplicity soil is much easier.

The yield of these skoosh better be good

 

[DDubs]

OK m8 but I find I only get maybe 7/8 good vapes and I have to refill the vape cuz it holds so little weed. Minor complaint.. overall I like it but it's gonna take a bit of getting used to.

I'm tormented with numbers atm tbh lol ec and ph chasing.. hoping my patience holds! I can't stop ph rising in the res and always having to adjust it is already a bit of a pain in the ass if I'm honest.. its a never ending chase atm!!

I should like I'm talking myself into ditching this already but that's not the case lol just having a moan although it has to be said that for hands off simplicity soil is much easier.

The yield of these skoosh better be good

Ya, I found that I had to adjust every feeding, twice a day. Kind of a pain. I think an auto pH doser would be game changing but they are pretty expensive.

 

[hope2grow]

Looking good Hope, glad to see the pumps are on for the first time, what is your schedule on watering?
With the PH, I can only agree with Teetee, you grew some stunners with limited measurement, now you have the toys you can really get in to the finer detail - I think we have discussed it before but I always float my PH from 5.8 to 6.2 because I need to adhere to the voices in my head


Exactly sir - they all have their own requirements based on the medium - e.g a good coco nutrient will tend to have extra Ca and Mg, and the clever ones will also have an extra shot extra Iron. Coco tends to absorb calcium and nitrogen while releasing potassium and holds on to elements making some nutrients unavailable. The different bottles and how they are put together helps with this (another reason a lot of companies and 2 or 3 part solutions).


shit man - in debt to the growing gods

Hey m8.. flooding twice a day to start.. 8pm and 8am.. yes I've been 'floating my ph.. which hasn't been hard as it mostly floats itself.. upwards lol

I'm pretty sure this AN is hydro/soil.. I know there is a coco range but the 'non coco' says soil or hydro.. I've just totally lost faith in it m8 tbh.. pointless if it doesn't do what it says. On the hunt for something else for next grow.. which will be rockwool BTW haha the grow gods can wait a bit yet for the one their owed.. think I'm gonna try that canna aqua.. for recirc systems they say.