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Hey guys and gals. I have an issue with an auto flower of mine. I recently started my second grow, my first autoflower grow, everything has been going well and it’s crazy to see the difference in growth between them and how my photoperiods went.

Problem: I gave my plants their first feeding at two weeks. Since I have seen several spots come up and some blotching. It started a light green and quickly changed into what is there now over a couple hours. I fed them at 1/3 dose and I suspect with my soil it was too much. I noticed the problem 72 hours ago, watered with a good amount of plain PHed water and have done nothing since. The problem hasn’t gotten much worse but I did notice some smaller spots starting to form on the other two fan leaves. I have two plants both autos but different strains and the other is showing similar signs but much less concerning. I will have pictures of both for comparison.

Medium/Grow method: Fox farms ocean forest potting soil. I know I’ll probably catch hell for that from what I’ve read around here.

Feeding and supplements: Fox Farms trio. One dose at 1/3 dose.

Water source: Tap water. It comes out right at 8.4 and I PH down to 6.5 usually with some small variation.

Strain and age: Sweet Seeds - Dark Devil Automatic. Now about three weeks.

Climate: 70-78 depending on time of day. We’re running 24 hours so no night temps. Humidity where these plants are is unregulated but monitored and has been around 40-50. No drastic temperature or humidity changes.

Light used: 1 Phlizon 1200w LED. 24 hour light cycle. I kept my distance a little further to start with these plants being my first autos but were at 26 inches currently.

Additional information: As stated before I have another plant that wasn’t affected nearly as bad, looks wise, and her symptoms haven’t progressed like my Dark Devil did. The plants also have been topped if that is relevant and saw almost no stunt in growth, they also have not slowed or stopped growing at all.

The affected plants. This is the Dark Devil, my reason for being here.
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These leaves started to shows signs second to the spots on the fan leaves. Apologies for sideways pictures. My iPad is a pain in the ass.
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Hi! I'm in ffof too and didn't start feeding until I noticed them having a deficiency. Ffof already has some nutrientes si you may be a little too easily to feed.

Let's see what others think.
Karl
 
Hello dude and Welcome to AFN:welcome:....I think what you are experiencing may be down to Ph fluctuations?......do you have a Ph meter or the drops?.......or your soil may be a bit "hot" for them?
 
Hi! I'm in ffof too and didn't start feeding until I noticed them having a deficiency. Ffof already has some nutrientes si you may be a little too easily to feed.

Let's see what others think.
Karl

I didn’t want to wait that long BUT I should have probably waited a bit longer. I’m notorious for being impatient so it’s no surprise to me.
I was thinking maybe I caused a lockout on accident but I’m too new to this to have much weight with what I say. I don’t trust me.
 
Hello :D

Looks like there's a whole bunch of potential offenders to the issue. But my best guess is gonna be the old favourite PH.

With a starting PH of 8.5 and getting it down to 6.5, it's probably gonna swing up a bit and lock out some nute availability.
Going along with that thought, i'd be PHing lower that 6.5 ... probably to 6.0 with a view that it'll swing up to 6.4-6.5 and even if it only creeps up a little, it's stillgonna be in a good range for soil.

Water .. If your in the UK (as you're not using fancy reverse osmosis or whatever) - you could nip over to tescos and buy their own brand bottled water.
Conveneitly 6.2 ph.

While you're there grab some epsom salts and mix up a foliar spray ... you'll ideally need a surfacant to put with the spray to get the best benefit, but these will be from a grow shop - so in a pinch use the TINIEST drop of fairy liquid (I know people (waira) will hate me for advising such a low grade fix) with your epsom salts and water mix.

I think the ratio is 1 tablespoon per litre (but if someone wants to correct me, i honestly can't remember)

Other than that - woah - that's a high power LED ... 1000w! Mines 1/4 of that i think and about 3 feet away :D I don't know the light so maybe thats what they recommend.

Hope this may help a little for a quick fix!

Blue
:d5:
 
Hello dude and Welcome to AFN:welcome:....I think what you are experiencing may be down to Ph fluctuations?......do you have a Ph meter or the drops?.......or your soil may be a bit "hot" for them?

Thank you! Sadly I’m here for this but I’m sticking around because I like it here.
I do have a nice accurate PH meter that I make sure to calibrate regularly. I make sure to add nutrients in order then mix and PH last before feeding. If I’m not mistaken I did every plant in my house at 6.5 that day. I keep it in the 6-7 range for sure but I do try to fluctuate just a little bit to help with nutrient intake. It’s mostly in the 6.3-6.8 to be accurate when it comes to watering.
 
Hello :D

Looks like there's a whole bunch of potential offenders to the issue. But my best guess is gonna be the old favourite PH.

With a starting PH of 8.5 and getting it down to 6.5, it's probably gonna swing up a bit and lock out some nute availability.
Going along with that thought, i'd be PHing lower that 6.5 ... probably to 6.0 with a view that it'll swing up to 6.4-6.5 and even if it only creeps up a little, it's stillgonna be in a good range for soil.

Water .. If your in the UK (as you're not using fancy reverse osmosis or whatever) - you could nip over to tescos and buy their own brand bottled water.
Conveneitly 6.2 ph.

While you're there grab some epsom salts and mix up a foliar spray ... you'll ideally need a surfacant to put with the spray to get the best benefit, but these will be from a grow shop - so in a pinch use the TINIEST drop of fairy liquid (I know people (waira) will hate me for advising such a low grade fix) with your epsom salts and water mix.

I think the ratio is 1 tablespoon per litre (but if someone wants to correct me, i honestly can't remember)

Other than that - woah - that's a high power LED ... 1000w! Mines 1/4 of that i think and about 3 feet away :D I don't know the light so maybe thats what they recommend.

Hope this may help a little for a quick fix!

Blue
:d5:


About the LED... it’s a lot of “watts” but true wattage is below 300w. So I should be expecting my PH to swing back upwards? I’ve had water that I have PHed let sit for days PHed again and it’s the exact same. It was nutrient mixed water too that I never used just a curious experiment.

So adjust PH a touch lower for my water situation and make a spray, so could I just do epsom salt? I honestly wouldn’t add fertilizer if I didn’t need too. The simpler the better for me Usually. Check! Thank you!
 
About the LED... it’s a lot of “watts” but true wattage is below 300w.

Ahh that makes sense! Should be fine then!!

So I should be expecting my PH to swing back upwards?

I've lived in a hard water area with a high PH and observed that the PH of the water would swing back up over time.

So adjust PH a touch lower for my water situation and make a spray, so could I just do epsom salt?

It won't do any harm.

I honestly wouldn’t add fertilizer if I didn’t need too. The simpler the better for me Usually.

I agree - keep it simple.
An underfed plant will look pale yellow, small and slow growth and probably a bit limp/weak too.
Yours dosen't look underfed. I'd say other than the spots - it's a nice green colour.
 
I agree - keep it simple.
An underfed plant will look pale yellow, small and slow growth and probably a bit limp/weak too.
Yours dosen't look underfed. I'd say other than the spots - it's a nice green colour.
Thats the main reason I haven’t been too concerned they seem to be growing just fine if not pretty well. I’ll keep everyone posted and when we water again I’ll adjust. Thanks for all the input!
 
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