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HBD AutoFem Seed Run w/a CS Reversal, 1st go at this...
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Clone 2, or the clone that decided to auto in veg lighting, has taken off. I mean hit stretch with a vengeance. I'll post a pic soon but Wow. I topped it 3ish days ago maybe 4 no more than 5 fir certain and the two resulting stems have multiple set of leaves already! Kind of strange one set each stem has only 2 fingers. Dunno what thats about but it should be interesting going forward. I never got anyone's opinion on what this plant is or what who thinks its offspring will be.. Auto, non, etc. Anyone care to wager a guess? This plant was bought as an autofem Black JH. She never auto'd, I took 4 clones, 2 lived, I put her to 12/12. After a week I put 1 clone in 12/12 with Mom, then decided to try an reverse her for practice more or less cause she is a runt. The other clone kept in veg light and after another 2 weeks decided to flower and is still in preflower atm. Crazy, no?
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In my research about colloidal silver I read that true colloidal silver which for sure will reverse a plant, is not clear but an amberish cloudy color. Also, a laser put through it will not look glittery but "creamy" more like a light saber than a sparkly beam. The shiny particles in the laser beam through a clear liquid end product is ionic silver.
I didn't put too much truck with this as I have brewed CS overnight and achieved 40ish ppm and it remained clear and I got sparkly laser beam. Well as you can read a few posts up, I am re-running batches of CS as my plants were not reversing just getting crunchy.
I believe I have achieved true colloidal silver and the only difference is, I moved my wires apart some (thanks Everthngshazy) and I stopped with the bubbler. I don't know if it was the plastic tube in the water that was jacking it up or what but its working now, without it.
I put my 9v 600mA transformer on my 2 (supposedly) 99.999% silver wire better than an inch and a halfish apart in a clean glass jar (cleaned jar and wires with vodka) and let her run. I fell asleep, I did not clean the wires or switch them, just let it go.
I ran it from 6pm to 4am and the TDS (which is not accurate but a rough guide) said 20ppm.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, my liquid came back cloudy and amberish. When I put a laser beam to it, there were no sparkly things and the beam was more solid like a light saber. I understand "creamy" now.
I'm hoping this is the difference, and now I have true colloidal silver and not just ionic silver and hopefully, HOPEFULLY, I will get a plant to reverse, and I will get some pollen!
Now if all those beans I have missing in the mail would show up, I'd be in business, not literally but as they say.
I did clean the wires, reversed them and put them back on to cook.
In my research about colloidal silver I read that true colloidal silver which for sure will reverse a plant, is not clear but an amberish cloudy color. Also, a laser put through it will not look glittery but "creamy" more like a light saber than a sparkly beam. The shiny particles in the laser beam through a clear liquid end product is ionic silver.
I didn't put too much truck with this as I have brewed CS overnight and achieved 40ish ppm and it remained clear and I got sparkly laser beam. Well as you can read a few posts up, I am re-running batches of CS as my plants were not reversing just getting crunchy.
I believe I have achieved true colloidal silver and the only difference is, I moved my wires apart some (thanks Everthngshazy) and I stopped with the bubbler. I don't know if it was the plastic tube in the water that was jacking it up or what but its working now, without it.
I put my 9v 600mA transformer on my 2 (supposedly) 99.999% silver wire better than an inch and a halfish apart in a clean glass jar (cleaned jar and wires with vodka) and let her run. I fell asleep, I did not clean the wires or switch them, just let it go.
I ran it from 6pm to 4am and the TDS (which is not accurate but a rough guide) said 20ppm.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, my liquid came back cloudy and amberish. When I put a laser beam to it, there were no sparkly things and the beam was more solid like a light saber. I understand "creamy" now.
I'm hoping this is the difference, and now I have true colloidal silver and not just ionic silver and hopefully, HOPEFULLY, I will get a plant to reverse, and I will get some pollen!
Now if all those beans I have missing in the mail would show up, I'd be in business, not literally but as they say.
I did clean the wires, reversed them and put them back on to cook.
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I'm making sure the silver wires are not touching the glass or anything else. Also, the stretch wrap I'm using over the top is shipping wrap so its not likely to slip or come loose, moving the wires to touching anything.
I think my HBD is finally showing signs of making some pollen. I have searched images of reversed plants and finally, FINALLY seeing some resemblance. I have to go back and dig out dates but these as autos, have been alive much longer than normal I am thinking. It might have even pollinated itself trying to give me a seed or two here or there.
On closer inspection, I tried to pluck some of the "ball" looking things and pry them open to check for pollen, lo and behold, she's making beans! Instead of dropping pollen, she skipped right to it and pollenated her damn self. These were very immature seeds but as is I'll stop spraying and let 'em cook on the vine. Every now and then I'll give her a shake or pluck a ball and do a little surgery. I'm not too worried as I really wouldn't want to propagate these genes anyhoo. I'll fire off a bean or two if I get some but I really want something much more stable to breed with.
On the clone front, 1 is still getting sprayed with cs and is fullly in "flower". The other is still stretching after I topped her. I just topped the two tops to see if she'll put out 4 tops. She is still putting out secondary growth pretty rapidly.
I've started a slow harvest of Jacky. 1st was a taste test then a little for to dry for a couple days, now all but the main cola and the best sidearm are being chopped. As I cannot use her for seed, she may as well be put to some good use. I'll let the rest of her go until a more proper harvest time, she's not far from it anyhow.
On closer inspection, I tried to pluck some of the "ball" looking things and pry them open to check for pollen, lo and behold, she's making beans! Instead of dropping pollen, she skipped right to it and pollenated her damn self. These were very immature seeds but as is I'll stop spraying and let 'em cook on the vine. Every now and then I'll give her a shake or pluck a ball and do a little surgery. I'm not too worried as I really wouldn't want to propagate these genes anyhoo. I'll fire off a bean or two if I get some but I really want something much more stable to breed with.
On the clone front, 1 is still getting sprayed with cs and is fullly in "flower". The other is still stretching after I topped her. I just topped the two tops to see if she'll put out 4 tops. She is still putting out secondary growth pretty rapidly.
I've started a slow harvest of Jacky. 1st was a taste test then a little for to dry for a couple days, now all but the main cola and the best sidearm are being chopped. As I cannot use her for seed, she may as well be put to some good use. I'll let the rest of her go until a more proper harvest time, she's not far from it anyhow.
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Hey aku. I'll think I will give this a try again... tried on a automazar but I did something wrong. Did get nanners but don't think the powder was viable. Gonna try to reverse a autoultimate and pollinate a think different. I used 10ppms cs. This time I will try with 20 ppms... what u think?
hybridhydro
Hybrid Garden Grower
Can you use CS to reverse one branch to pollinate itself?
realcarlos
newbie
That is possible, but it's not recommended as it may cause hermie issues
If it's a photo plant it's best to take clones and reverse the whole plant
If it's an auto, best to use 2 different plants
hybridhydro
Hybrid Garden Grower
Do it man, the more data the better. I think 10ppm might be light. I'm currently using 15-18ppm and it has taken me a looooooooong time to see any verifiable results. I don't know if it was my cs being wrong/weak or if the strain was not stable or just not disposed to reversing. I have no evidence either way as yet.
I am waiting, miserably, for beans from 2 different companies. If/when I get some new genetics, I cannot wait to begin this on a different plant that may respond a whole ton better.
I've read where some plants take as little as 9 sprays total ever to reverse a plant into pollen and some just cannot make the turn for some reason.
Good luck, let us know how it goes
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