Nice one Groff, nothing to be worried about, get em next time!!!
Dutch Passion Groff Labs: AutoWhite Widow & Think Different, 20L Coco & SOL 9 LED
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Hey flat9!
I m now 99.999% it was because of pH. I've been using the wrong pH mark my entire growing life (almost 2 years!!). They grew fine until flower, then slowed down and never got huge dense nuggs like the masters I emulated.
check it out
https://www.autoflower.org/f61/am-i-insane-lot-people-using-wrong-ph-29430.html
I m now 99.999% it was because of pH. I've been using the wrong pH mark my entire growing life (almost 2 years!!). They grew fine until flower, then slowed down and never got huge dense nuggs like the masters I emulated.
check it out
https://www.autoflower.org/f61/am-i-insane-lot-people-using-wrong-ph-29430.html
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To be honest, I think pH is less important than people think it is, but perhaps this did play a role. I think the most important thing is having a very pH stable solution... and letting the pH adjust naturally on its own rather than constantly throwing up or down at it.
In general, though, I think the nute companies have totally fooled us. The best results I've gotten in terms of growth have come from using a simple low EC two part (Jack's Hydro + Calcium Nitrate) throughout. I don't even bother checking pH anymore b/c it's so pH stable that it's always hovering somewhere between 5.7 and 6.5, which is fine. I bought into the whole AN hooplah and I feel it seriously overfeeds our plants, and whatever gains you get from all of their products are rather marginal. You can get enough Jack's to last you about 10 years for about 100 bucks! Wish I could have saved the money.
On another topic, I'm really curious about those Sol 9 lights. For a while I thought the reason I haven't loved LEDs as compared to bare bulb HPS is that the penetration was bad. Well, now that I think about it, not so. The main problem w/ the Penetrator Pro (as well as pretty much any other LED) as I understand it now by looking at PAR footprints is that too much light is concentrated on one spot and there's not an even distribution over the footprint. It seems these Sol 9 lights are supposed to get better coverage at the cost of some penetration (photons are photons, so it just means that if you distribute them over a larger area fewer will be concentrated to penetrate further into the canopy). I'd really love to see a PAR test over a 4 x 4 grid for the Sol 9. Any idea if something like that exists?
In general, though, I think the nute companies have totally fooled us. The best results I've gotten in terms of growth have come from using a simple low EC two part (Jack's Hydro + Calcium Nitrate) throughout. I don't even bother checking pH anymore b/c it's so pH stable that it's always hovering somewhere between 5.7 and 6.5, which is fine. I bought into the whole AN hooplah and I feel it seriously overfeeds our plants, and whatever gains you get from all of their products are rather marginal. You can get enough Jack's to last you about 10 years for about 100 bucks! Wish I could have saved the money.
On another topic, I'm really curious about those Sol 9 lights. For a while I thought the reason I haven't loved LEDs as compared to bare bulb HPS is that the penetration was bad. Well, now that I think about it, not so. The main problem w/ the Penetrator Pro (as well as pretty much any other LED) as I understand it now by looking at PAR footprints is that too much light is concentrated on one spot and there's not an even distribution over the footprint. It seems these Sol 9 lights are supposed to get better coverage at the cost of some penetration (photons are photons, so it just means that if you distribute them over a larger area fewer will be concentrated to penetrate further into the canopy). I'd really love to see a PAR test over a 4 x 4 grid for the Sol 9. Any idea if something like that exists?
