Indoor Flushing With Molasses????

[vv15629]

Ok so I've used a mix gallon of molasses and cal/mag supplement throughout my grow. I've heard several times that molasses, especially very late in the grow will help dense up those buds.

So my question is I've just began flushing so no more Nute feedings for my girls, but would it be ok to flush w/ my molasses and cal/mag supplement gallon, or maybe even a gallon mixed w/ just molasses???

 

[BigBuddha]

Hey, vv.

Yep it's perfectly fine to flush with molasses towards the end of their time. Although, it's a bit of a myth that molasses fattens up buds. What it really does is feed the soil bacteria (microherd) and in turn they break-down and create certain enzymes in the soil at a specific rate that means that the plant can get a final boost of nutrients to make its own sugars. The sugar in molasses can't be used by plants directly, but to the microherd it's like giving them crack then following it up with some meth!

It's also rich in micronutrients (especially calcium and B vitamins) and, in my opinion (although some will completely tell me that I'm talking bollocks) it does tend to make the buds taste better. But be warned.. it has a very high ec (nutrient content) so use with moderation when adding it to any other nutrients, or especially if you live in a hardwater area because you may see excess calcium, and that leads to a magnesium lockout.

 

[vv15629]

OK I get what you're saying (kind of lol), but what exactly occurs differently when the plant is then able to get a final boost to produce its own sugars? Is the only advantage better taste and not in bud production or density?

Oh and should I not use any cal/mag while flushing?

 

[BigBuddha]

I'll do my best to explain clearly.. but bear in mind I'm totally mashup

If you think of it in terms of what goes in the soil goes in the plant it can be misleading because that's not actually what happens. What really happens is that the particles of food (nutrient ions) have to sort of magnetically attach to different ions to make up a new particle that the plant can absorb. It's called Chelation and is the process of making nutrients more available to the plant. So, when molasses goes into the soil.. the plant doesn't absorb molasses directly, it has to rely on the soil bacteria to eat the molasses, shit it out, and THEN the plant can use it. Now, just like our shit.. the soil bacteria's shit has an odour.. and part of that odour is the bio-chemical enzymes from the bacteria. Still following? Good.. I'm not but don't worry about that for now.

Now.. this bacterias enzymes are what help enrich the essential oils in cannabis and make it taste and smell better. And if we give the bacteria unsulfured molasses they go fucking mental on it and start eating loads of organic matter in the soil.. and in turn that makes lots of nutrient available in the chelated form that is instantly available and really easy for the plant to uptake.


I find it helps to think of it like this..

If I gave you a big steak and chips to eat.. you'd have to spend a bit of time cutting it up.. chewing each bite.. and so on.. take ages wouldn't it and your guts would have to work bloody hard to digest it all.. and that will make you feel tired and lethargic. But what about if I put it in a blender and liquidized it? Then you could get it all down you in two minutes with a straw and your body would digest it a lot easier.

That blending the steak is the chelating of nutrients.. so the plant gets a nice boost of good stuff that it doesn't have to work hard to break down and digest. Thus what happens is, overall, the plant gets more nutrients from the soil. But, we need to get out of the thinking that it's the molasses that's doing this, because it ain't, it's he soil bacteria.



Is that making any sense? Have I even answered your question? Lol.. sorry fella.. I'm trying.




Oh yeah.. and if it were me I wouldn't be using cal/mag while flushing since the tapwater / molasses will have some in it already and the girls won't need much of either as they're finishing.

 

[vv15629]

Soooo basically and I'm borrowing this from you, molasses does not directly provide for the plant, rather assists in providing nutrients in the chelated form. Which then allows for more prudctive uptake for the plant. My idea now it that molasses seems to basically be a product that should be fed start to finish, no need to 'nuke' it much mor than that huh?

 

[Straight808]

I'm high enough to understand you perfectly, and you just opened my mind to a whole new world bro... +rep for that mindf$&k of knowledge!

 

[BigBuddha]

Soooo basically and I'm borrowing this from you, molasses does not directly provide for the plant, rather assists in providing nutrients in the chelated form. Which then allows for more prudctive uptake for the plant. My idea now it that molasses seems to basically be a product that should be fed start to finish, no need to 'nuke' it much mor than that huh?

Actually, it does directly provide for the plant in terms of (mostly) calcium, some magnesium, lots of B vitamins, iron, zinc, manganese etc.. so pretty much all of the trace minerals an vits a plant needs. But in and of themselves those micronutrients or the indigestible sugars aren't bud boosters. Although many a nute company will try and convince us that they are, when quite simply they're scientifically wrong.

So, in summary.. you feed the molasses to the bacteria, and the bacteria then charge around all hyperactive, multiplying faster and shitting out enzymes, and all that helps the plant create more resin and get access to more of the soil nutrients a lot easier. And THAT'S why molasses is associated with being a bud booster.. when it's actually just a bacteria booster and mid0range source of a lot of micro-nutrients.


And now I'm wondering if there's an even easier way to explain it.. but I think my brain's fried for the night.

 

[DizzyKushDawg]

Can i break in and ask if its ok to use biobizz grow as molasses to flush with in the end of flowering bigbuddha? Its pretty much molasses right? Very good explained by the way:smokebuds:

 

[The Squid]

Can i break in and ask if its ok to use biobizz grow as molasses to flush with in the end of flowering bigbuddha? Its pretty much molasses right?

Flushing with any nutrients kinda goes against the idea, KushDawg. You want it as clean as possible, hence the 'flush'. Molasses is fine to add some carbs to load up on at the very end, other than that I wouldn't use anything. But hell, what do I know?

 

[DizzyKushDawg]

Flushing with any nutrients kinda goes against the idea, KushDawg. You want it as clean as possible, hence the 'flush'. Molasses is fine to add some carbs to load up on at the very end, other than that I wouldn't use anything. But hell, what do I know?

I guess i have to ditch that one then and buy some blackstrap instead.