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Need some advice. Am planning a first time grow. Choosing outdoor auto grow at close to equator weather. Will be done at my own garden + some stealth to make it discreet.

My questions are:

1) I really wanna make this as easy but as successful as possible. So I plan to plant/ germinate direct on soil. Less steps, less chance for mistakes imo. I am considering soaking in water for just 10-20mins before planting it. Any opinions?

What soil do I use? I plan to buy local organic potting mix + 30% perlite. Local organic mix usually has Coco Peat, Burnt Soil, River Sand, Hummus, Charcoal Powder and Burnt Husk.

Is this enough? Or do I also need to add peat moss? Do I use a different soil as a seedling soil? Perhaps only peat moss + perlite?Meaning make a hole in the organic mix + perlite and then add seedling soil to germinate seed in. Then cover with cling wrap and allow to pop up before removing plastic. Do I remove plastic daily to add some water?

Is the above ok?

2) I've heard autos need little to no nutes. Any auto experts out there can share some tips? Simple, economic and yields results? Epsom salt with magnesium sulphate anyone?

3) When planting the way I do? What are the light requirements at every stage? We get sunlight 12 hours a day all year long. I guess I'm worried about my spot selection.

When planted seed into soil, do I just keep it outside under light? Or indoors away from light? Or a shaded less direct sunlight spot?

And what about after it has sprouted? Do I choose a spot with as much total direct sunlight each day? Or a balanced spot with lotsa morning sun but no/ less direct evening sun?

I'm sure I'll have more questions but these are the more pressing ones. Thank u guys so much in advance?
 
Soak your seeds till they split so you know they are working.

Find a way to shelter your seedlings maybe just cut plastic container and make a little dome that protects it for the first week. You'll want to have more air flow reaching the seedling as it matures. Don't water everyday, there should be some kind of lid keeping the moisture in while the seedling find their way out.

You can plant in full sun if you have a way of lessening the sunlight; like a screen/net or plastic draped over a frame till the seedling become hardened to the climate or you find the right amount of light for your plants to thrive under.

Mix worm castings into your local mix its the dipppin dots of dirt.

If you feed your plants be ware animals may want to dig your plants looking for the plant food.
 
Hey bud....i absolutely understand the want to not transplant....however.....young seedling sprouts are very fragile in outdoor conditions. Weigh out your options and give this thread a read. A few things will differ for you...obviously your climate is quite different from my own, so certain things like introduction to the sun should be different(you have more intense sun than we do in the north) will be different, but there should still be some good information in there.
https://www.autoflower.org/threads/...owing-under-the-sun.56402/page-5#post-1288176

Also @Maria Sanchez @hecno @islandgrower are all fairly close to the equator and can likely help you out.
 
Need some advice. Am planning a first time grow. Choosing outdoor auto grow at close to equator weather. Will be done at my own garden + some stealth to make it discreet.

My questions are:

1) I really wanna make this as easy but as successful as possible. So I plan to plant/ germinate direct on soil. Less steps, less chance for mistakes imo. I am considering soaking in water for just 10-20mins before planting it. Any opinions?

What soil do I use? I plan to buy local organic potting mix + 30% perlite. Local organic mix usually has Coco Peat, Burnt Soil, River Sand, Hummus, Charcoal Powder and Burnt Husk.

Is this enough? Or do I also need to add peat moss? Do I use a different soil as a seedling soil? Perhaps only peat moss + perlite?Meaning make a hole in the organic mix + perlite and then add seedling soil to germinate seed in. Then cover with cling wrap and allow to pop up before removing plastic. Do I remove plastic daily to add some water?

Is the above ok?

2) I've heard autos need little to no nutes. Any auto experts out there can share some tips? Simple, economic and yields results? Epsom salt with magnesium sulphate anyone?

3) When planting the way I do? What are the light requirements at every stage? We get sunlight 12 hours a day all year long. I guess I'm worried about my spot selection.

When planted seed into soil, do I just keep it outside under light? Or indoors away from light? Or a shaded less direct sunlight spot?

And what about after it has sprouted? Do I choose a spot with as much total direct sunlight each day? Or a balanced spot with lotsa morning sun but no/ less direct evening sun?

I'm sure I'll have more questions but these are the more pressing ones. Thank u guys so much in advance?
I would advise you to consider starting your autos indoors in a light (little to no nutes) under 20/4 lighting for 2 weeks to 3 weeks depending on size of container then transplant outdoors .
The thread that @GreenSkell912 posted a link to has great info. Look for the "auto transplant pot " am pretty close to the equator myself. No outdoor veg period basically. With autos no worries with that.

As for the sun before transplanting outdoors acclimate the plants for a few days to the sun. Then transplant. Full sun if possible.

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I would advise you to consider starting your autos indoors in a light (little to no nutes) under 20/4 lighting for 2 weeks to 3 weeks depending on size of container then transplant outdoors .
The thread that @GreenSkell912 posted a link to has great info. Look for the "auto transplant pot " am pretty close to the equator myself. No outdoor veg period basically. With autos no worries with that.

As for the sun before transplanting outdoors acclimate the plants for a few days to the sun. Then transplant. Full sun if possible.

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Do you find that the acclimation process I use in the guide works well in your more intense light situation?
 
Acclimate meaning use a bit of a shade for a few days?

I'm still hesitant to transplant or germinate in water/ paper towel. Still leaning towards direct to soil. I can keep the pot indoors if it helps with germination. Otherwise, just put seed in and cover the top with cling wrap. I'm using fabric pots btw. Using big 5gallon types. Main reason is I don't want an indoor set up. Family and cost are major considerations. I only have a small room prepared for drying harvests if I were to succeed.

Have not seen anyone comment on soil and nutes? Would appreciate it very much.

I have another hidden agenda though with this attempt. I have zero grow experience and we live in a harsh place with regards to the law and awareness of anything cannabis is very low. I have had lots of experience with extracts, infusion and edibles previously but it was in another country. After coming back, I realized the best way would be for ppl to grow their own personal stash. So I wanna make this as simple and cost effective. Of course, the higher the yield and quality, the better.

In an ideal world, more ppl would do this in my country and bring about new laws to legalize it. I do hope u guys can see my logic behind this. Waiting for lunch to be served and really hungry......
 
Howdy Equatorial . What Latitude are you , I am Latitude 15 . South , as far as seeding direct to soil , it is what I always do and never had a problem , I seed 5 to 10 mm deep . and use a small amount of seedling mix in the middle of the soil . But make sure you plant the seed the right way .
 
Need some advice. Am planning a first time grow. Choosing outdoor auto grow at close to equator weather. Will be done at my own garden + some stealth to make it discreet.

Hola!

Greenskell just tagged me here, so I'll add a few thoughts.
As he said, I'm in a sub-tropical area, around 22N.
I've got some experience growing indoors under lights,
and now outdoors guerilla style in the sub-tropics.

I see you've been doing some study / reading, which is awesome!
But, remember that most stuff on the internet
is for people in Europe or North America, different climate from you and me.

My questions are:

1) I really wanna make this as easy but as successful as possible. So I plan to plant/ germinate direct on soil. Less steps, less chance for mistakes imo. I am considering soaking in water for just 10-20mins before planting it. Any opinions?

For germinating the seeds, I'd suggest first soaking for maybe 12-24 hours,
and then either planting directly into soil in small pots,
or using the "paper towel" method for another 24+ hrs until seed sprouts.
Soaking for 10-20 minutes won't do much at all.
You can look up soaking and paper towel method online, or better yet, here at AFN.
Just putting the seed into the soil without prep may actually lead to more chance of problems.

I would not plant directly outside.
As mentioned above, I have found that starting in a 1 Liter pot works great.
Sprout it indoors in the pot, by a sunny window or under little lights (like CFL flouro).
A 1L pot will be enough for the first 2-3 weeks of life.
This is important, as you can then really look after the young seedling.
Avoid big changes in temps (you prob don't have that prob in tropics, though),
and maintain soil moisture levels well, i.e. neither too wet nor too dry.

What soil do I use? I plan to buy local organic potting mix + 30% perlite. Local organic mix usually has Coco Peat, Burnt Soil, River Sand, Hummus, Charcoal Powder and Burnt Husk.

Use the best potting mix you can.
A little perlite is nice, but ... maybe just 10%-20%, I wouldn't go to 30%.

But: make sure you check a couple of things on the potting mix:
What is the pH? Try to get pH around 5.8 to 6.5. No more, no less.
And for NPK (Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium), go with about 1-0.5-0.5.
Do not use something that has slow release fert in it already.

If the potting mix bag doesn't have any pH and NPK figures, don't buy it.

Otherwise, sounds ok. Similar to what they sell here.
(Though my pref is some imported brands, mainly German....)

Is this enough? Or do I also need to add peat moss? Do I use a different soil as a seedling soil? Perhaps only peat moss + perlite?Meaning make a hole in the organic mix + perlite and then add seedling soil to germinate seed in. Then cover with cling wrap and allow to pop up before removing plastic. Do I remove plastic daily to add some water?

Is the above ok?

Prob no need to add anything of your own.
If it's your first try, don't go mixing stuff up.
Just regular standard potting mix or seed raising mix. Perfect.

If you use the soak and / or paper towel method,
make sure you prepare your pots maybe 24 hrs before hand.
That includes getting the soil nice and wet, but a little time to drain.

Once the seed is sprouted, make a little hole about 1cm deep in the top of the soil,
and carefully (may want to gently use tweezers) to put the seed sprout in.
If you can (but don't worry about it too much), have the sprout tip pointing down.
Then very gently cover over the seed, add a few drops of water.
Do not press the soil over it.

Whether or not you need to cover with plastic film?
Depends on your local humidity and temperature.
Since you're tropical, prob the temperature is perfect.
You want relative humidity RH about 70-80% for the sprout / seedling.
If that's what your local RH is, no need for the cover.
(I don't use a cover, and my local RH is about 70-80%.)
Too wet is not good, can cause fungus and "damping off",
or make the seedling grow very tall and skinny, which will fall over...

If all goes well, and it most likely will,
the seed will pop from the surface in about 2-7 days.
How much water to give it?
Again, depends on local humidity.
If you're quite humid / wet, then if the soil is soaked when the seed goes in,
may not need any water for the first few days.

If the surface of the soil is wet / damp, don't water it!
Over-watering is the most common beginner mistake.

But don't let it dry out either. Dry sprout is dead sprout.
Check it once a day, you'll be okay.

As above, do all this in maybe a 1L pot to start with,
for first 2-3 weeks of life of the seedling.

2) I've heard autos need little to no nutes. Any auto experts out there can share some tips? Simple, economic and yields results? Epsom salt with magnesium sulphate anyone?

If you local soil is really top quality, you prob don't need much nutes.
But, probably you do need some.
Or, rather, you don't need it, but it will help and give a better result.

Epsom salts / mag sulph is good for magnesium, but it's not the main thing.
The main thing that the plants need is Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium - NPK.
And secondary nutrients, most important Calcium and Magnesium, then prob Iron. Ca Mg Fe.
What nutrients a plant needs changes during growth stage.

At first, a little more N as it builds up leaves and stems.
Something like 5-2-2 NPK, or similar ratio.
(Ratio most important, as can mix stronger or weaker...)
But into flowering, more like 2-5-5 NPK or something.

As for Ca and Mg, depends:
If you use tap water, and it's hard water = high Ca,
then prob not much need so supplement.
But if you use purified / RO water, then it's soft, low Ca.
You may need some nice Ca / Mg booster, like Epsom salts / lime.

If you have a few $$, there are some great commercial products.
Check out some of these:
http://www.autoflower.org/threads/n...r-packs-kits-info-and-links-2016-09-24.55182/
They're mainly designed for growing our kind of herb. ;-)

During first couple of weeks, the plant is vegetating, growing green.
Most good potting mix will be enough nutes.
But in flowering, once the flowers start to show until the harvest,
then the soil's nutrients may be used up already,
and only then need nutrients.

So one simple option is to just buy a "bloom" / "flowering" fert,
and only start to use it once your plant is flowering.

3) When planting the way I do? What are the light requirements at every stage? We get sunlight 12 hours a day all year long. I guess I'm worried about my spot selection.

Most autos are bred for 20/4 or 24/0 light cycles.
But don't worry. Some of us growing outside in tropics,
just use natural 12/12, and they do just fine.

Canna is "heliophilic", meaning "loves the sun".
The best is full sun, as much as possible.
Unless your midday sun is maybe over 35 C hot,
in which case, may slow down or get a bit too hot.
Choose your strain to grow well,
can find a strain that likes the heat.

When planted seed into soil, do I just keep it outside under light? Or indoors away from light? Or a shaded less direct sunlight spot?

After doing 2-3 weeks inside / window then transplant out.
Transplanting is pretty easy, just look it up how to do it.

Give it the sunniest spot you can find, for your security situation.
More sun. They like the sun. Need the sun.
Not the heat, but the light.

And what about after it has sprouted? Do I choose a spot with as much total direct sunlight each day? Or a balanced spot with lotsa morning sun but no/ less direct evening sun?

Sun. Lots of light means happy plant.
If you can't get all day sun, usually morning better than evening.
(Sky is clearer, less human pollution...)

I'm sure I'll have more questions but these are the more pressing ones. Thank u guys so much in advance?

You've come to the right place.

Happy growing!

:love:
 
Acclimate meaning use a bit of a shade for a few days?

I'm still hesitant to transplant or germinate in water/ paper towel. Still leaning towards direct to soil. I can keep the pot indoors if it helps with germination. Otherwise, just put seed in and cover the top with cling wrap. I'm using fabric pots btw. Using big 5gallon types. Main reason is I don't want an indoor set up. Family and cost are major considerations. I only have a small room prepared for drying harvests if I were to succeed.

Then I'd try soaking for 24 hrs, and straight into soil in small pots first.
Fabric pots are great, esp for high rainfall areas, because dry quicker.
Do you have a window sill or balcony to start with?
It works great for me.

Have not seen anyone comment on soil and nutes? Would appreciate it very much.

As above.
If you've got a few dollars, maybe one bottle of Advanced Nutrients "Bloom" will do.

I have another hidden agenda though with this attempt. I have zero grow experience and we live in a harsh place with regards to the law and awareness of anything cannabis is very low. I have had lots of experience with extracts, infusion and edibles previously but it was in another country. After coming back, I realized the best way would be for ppl to grow their own personal stash. So I wanna make this as simple and cost effective. Of course, the higher the yield and quality, the better.

Tropical and harsh laws -- I'm guessing where you are. ;-)
Stay safe, buddy. That should be [HASHTAG]#1[/HASHTAG] concern, okay?

In an ideal world, more ppl would do this in my country and bring about new laws to legalize it. I do hope u guys can see my logic behind this. Waiting for lunch to be served and really hungry......

Amen!
 
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