First Grow. Which def's are running the show? Flowering but sick. Adios yield.

[massgrass]

Hi Waira.
Despite my challenges, my blood pressure drops a bit every time you drop a line.

Been spending alot of time in the Conservatory last few days. Accurate 8 takes 10 minutes per reading. 8 pots, 80 minutes. Thorough foliar sprays. pH'ing everything, trying some minimal lst to keep the canopy 30" below cob.

Loving every minute of it!

Let me address your previous post.

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your quite welcome mate! And what a spread of Goods- You are as set as they get! [emoji106] ...and thank you for providing all the helpful details...
..pretty much all good news, nothing really out of whack at all, just a few over 6.5pH, but not into the 7's,.. it shows, as I don't see tell-tale Fe/Zn defc.'s showing on the newest growth (these are immobile within the plant once in established tissues, so can't be translocated to new growth),... your water is very nice and soft too, so I'm puzzled at the higher 6's pH? A lot of lime source can cause this, and strongly resist adjustment down,... How much Ca-Mg has been going in?
∆ I started off 50% strength with the GO.
Then full strength GO.
Then full strength Elemental.
Now I am keeping the CaMg in the foliar only.
Full strength GO CaMg+, pH to 6.1. Every other day.

Last watering was with Soul Infinity & Soul Bloom, full strength. I meant to start @ 50% but I spazzed.

I picked up some PK.:

Roots organics.

HPK / 0 - 4 - 3

DERIVED FROM
100% Natural Seabird Guano, Bat Guano and Langbeinite

Roots Organics HPK liquid bloom booster features a combination of bat guano, an unparalleled source of available natural phosphorus, and langbeinite, a natural source of potassium that is carefully mined from ancient sea beds in the deserts of the American Southwest. Aurora Innovations has taken generations of gardening experience and distilled it into a distinctive, easy-to-use formula for the home and professional gardener. Roots Organics HPK is minimally processed to preserve all the benefits and amazing synergistic qualities found in our exceptional ingredients.

Should I continue on full bloom nutes, or switch over to HPK?

-noted, on the Elemental,... have you been pH adjusting the water/nute solution?
∆ I didn't, but only used the CaMg's on 2 or so waterings. I am a pH phreak right now, checking EVERYTHING. Bluelab lives in my pocket while I am in the Conservatory. Last (first!) feed was 6.1. All pots now in low 6's as of last night.

With no acidic nutes/fert's going in, this will also allow the pH to creep up over time,.. Oh, with that soft water, I see now why your pH is oddly high after Ca-Mg goes in! Any water that has low ppm hardness will be more prone to big pH swings from even small inputs,... adjust your inputs for those higher pH pots down to low 6's, and see if that helps over time,..
Can you get some PK booster nutes, or reg. bloom? Bottled organic stuff would be fine, but a little synthetic isn't going to lay waste to the herd! do you use inoculants? What's in your tea?

∆Keeping it simple cuz I'm just learning about it.

Got Bu's Brew teabags.

Did one just Bu's and black strap.Soil pH issues, and nutes superceded the need for microherd that day, so I said f* it, added nutes to it and pH'ed it to 6.1. I figured it was better than throwing it away. Now that my soil pH is low 6's, future feed/water to be 6.3 ish.

Getting your P input up is the goal here, extra K won't hurt either,...
For foliar, and getting S in there just in case that's part of the problem, epsoms (MgSO4) is the ticket, readily absorbed,... great on the wetting agent!
∆Epsom spray every other day. pH 6.1
Be sure to get bottom of leaves especially, as more stomata are there,.. do this early lights-on if you can, but keep them out of direct intense light until dry,... re-wet with plain water to help get a second helping in there, and clean the leaves some,...

eP chum, you know,.. right tool for the right job!

Dr. Waira, you are the MAN.

Thank you for the encouragement!

Jah Strength
mg

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[Waira]

...so, Ca-Mg going on as foliar only? I'd keep it in the feed solutions, with that soft water,.. in any case, foliar feed at half the dosage for soil,... My suggestion for foliar is epsoms, which are MgSO4, just to cover the S bases for possible defc. issue,...1tsp/L

.... my bad Mass, I blurred your post with another, and last time, forgot you're in GBD soil mix! The HPK is redundant, unless you want to go full organic (Soul line isn't),..as you see they're nearly the same for #'s,... Soul is a more diverse nutrient source, the HPK is more a of a supplement/booster,... Have you fed anything yet? I'd start at half str. and wait a couple days,.. organics take longer, but the Soul line is a mix, so some of the nutes will be readily available right away,...
... I see she's eating the N from her fans pretty fast,...some of course is normal at this stage,.. you have a little coming in from the Bloom, Infinity and CaMg+,... let's see if that slows it down some,...

 

[massgrass]

So, I was thinking, aside from the Auto Mazars; the gbd super soil and all my genetics are Mephisto gear. Perhaps if he's not too busy, our friend @gbd might find this interesting. He has been very kind in the past to respond to my newb questions.

I'd really like to keep using the super soil, if I can just figure out where I took a wrong turn. I am 100% down with Mephisto products and customer service, and I'd love to make this work.

To catch you up, gbd, I'm using Nectar to the Gods number 4 soil. We talked a while back and you gave it the thumbs up. The website reccomended amending with Mykes and EWC, which I did not, because the number 4 includes them both already. Bottom half of 3.6 gallon Air Pots is amended with SS. Top half straight number 4.
My filtered (Boogie Blue Plus) tap sits out ±48 hours. However, it was coming in at 7.8 pH. Been adjusting to low 6s for about a week.

4x4 tent. 540W cob 72"(!) off floor. 30" minimum from canopy (manuf. recc.) ±50%rh, 79°F.
177 cfm exhaust on full time.

Gbd, where did I f* up? Everything turns yellow around bloom.

What steps should I take to continue using the SS? I've seen successful grows online, and I wonder why I'm different. : /

Link at bottom to grow in question, If you are interested.

I appreciate your time.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks gbd!

Jah Strength
mg

All are invited to check out my current first grow. [emoji271] Mephisto; DP.

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[gbd]

Hey dude, sorry to see such large amounts of yellow so early. I'm not entirely sure where things could have gone awry, but to get you back in track I would purchase some azos and mycos to help with nitrogen and nutrent uptake, and brew a tea of earthworm castings and unsulphured molasses. Use one healthy handful of castings per gallon of water and 1-2 tablespoons of molasses per gallon of water. Let that bubble for 36-48 hours and give them a good drenching to replenish the microbe population in your soil. I'll also make a note that the nectar soil seems not to work as well with the mix for future inquiries. Hope this helps and you get right back on track! Cheers dude!

 

[Scar17]

:smoking:.... you know, very likely you won't have to pH down on the nute soln.'s with those products, they will be plenty acidic,... I'd still add the CaMg+, for the little extra N and especially, the carbonate in it (this is the part that's involved directly with pH buffering in solution),... Oh, and the tea, never pH adjust that, it goes in raw as is,.. which reminds me to ask, specifically, what are you making the tea from? Organic tea is mostly about the microbes, and you need some inoculant, EWC, or something that has them,... tea or not, feed ASAP!

... Scar, I think Sick Bay is a military/Naval term...

Sick bay...yes military

 

[massgrass]

...so, Ca-Mg going on as foliar only? I'd keep it in the feed solutions, with that soft water,.. in any case, foliar feed at half the dosage for soil,... My suggestion for foliar is epsoms, which are MgSO4, just to cover the S bases for possible defc. issue,...1tsp/L

∆Salutations brother Waira. : vibe :
Now doing foliar sprays w/ Epsom. Will dose at 1t/L as recommended. Elemental into the water/feed also for some Ca.∆

.... my bad Mass, I blurred your post with another, and last time, forgot you're in GBD soil mix!

∆No worries brother. You have a lot on your plate, and I'm just happy you're here.∆.


The HPK is redundant, unless you want to go full organic (Soul line isn't),..as you see they're nearly the same for #'s,... Soul is a more diverse nutrient source, the HPK is more a of a supplement/booster,... Have you fed anything yet? I'd start at half str. and wait a couple days,.. organics take longer, but the Soul line is a mix, so some of the nutes will be readily available right away,...

∆Have been giving Soul Bloom and Infinity @ 50% to my 5 current bloomers. ( SC1, SC2, TWT, AM1, AM2). I didn't research Soul too much b4 I ordered those samples, assumed( : / )they were organic....but I was glad I had em on hand. Gonna try to move away from the synthetics though.∆


... I see she's eating the N from her fans pretty fast,...some of course is normal at this stage,.. you have a little coming in from the Bloom, Infinity and CaMg+,... let's see if that slows it down some,...

∆ Just started cooking a tea w Azos and EWC as per gbd. Jingo was heading me in this direction also. Thanks homies.
Subtle signs of new green growth down low on yellow TWT& Mazars. SC's seem to be hanging in there with some nice sugary nugs fattening up. Clear trich's now.
MBAP day 26 will be the next to reach pre flower, where the troubles start. Slightly clawed tips starting......
Eyes on MBAP.....∆

...so, Ca-Mg going on as foliar only? I'd keep it in the feed solutions, with that soft water,.. in any case, foliar feed at half the dosage for soil,... My suggestion for foliar is epsoms, which are MgSO4, just to cover the S bases for possible defc. issue,...1tsp/L

.... my bad Mass, I blurred your post with another, and last time, forgot you're in GBD soil mix! The HPK is redundant, unless you want to go full organic (Soul line isn't),..as you see they're nearly the same for #'s,... Soul is a more diverse nutrient source, the HPK is more a of a supplement/booster,... Have you fed anything yet? I'd start at half str. and wait a couple days,.. organics take longer, but the Soul line is a mix, so some of the nutes will be readily available right away,...
... I see she's eating the N from her fans pretty fast,...some of course is normal at this stage,.. you have a little coming in from the Bloom, Infinity and CaMg+,... let's see if that slows it down some,...

Jah Strength
mg

All are invited to check out my current first grow. [emoji271] Mephisto; DP.

https://www.autoflower.org/index.php?threads/59051/