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ok, if there'z still room, hehe, me gotta drop in @AltheGardener plz he said back at the beginning of the other thread that he'd luv to give it a go, and i tagged him, but he wazn't able to access the thread at that time, and well, me thinkz we both kinda spaced it out in the shuffle of thingz, lol if u could squeeze him in, that'd be great, ty ppp