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- more exciting stuff! It's going to be fun (or rather has been!) to see what the lab data shows vs. what subjective testing does
,... given her heritage, I would have bet on upper teens %THC -
,... BTW, can you explain why the total THC is less than THC-A? There's more "proprietary" stuff I'll ask in PM,...
....The name is perfect! Is there some comic story behind it, involving the sensation of head flatten effects, getting
stunned, not stoned?
...... I am a little surprised at so low a CBD content, but then none of her ancestor ALF's were tested (?) to see if they still had some landracey chemistry still fizzing,.... I'd really love to see a terp' profile too! They sound delish',...:drool:-- ditto for the JEM's...
The numbers are what i was waiting on the most i think. That was the tipping point for them, they were willing to try them out, they were willing to use resources for them and see what they produced. Once we got the numbers back they were even more interested in the rest of the stock. I was hoping for at least 14%. I had no idea what so ever on the % as they have never been tested like you mentioned. I too was shocked at the low CBD numbers in this side of the line. However the cross was meant to produce better THC in auto form.
So the numbers, that is something that i am still learning about here with the lab results. I have some time this week to meet with the staff and go over said numbers. I want a better understanding of what they mean as well as how they break them down. Im not sure if they see THC-A different than just THC. As you know THC-A carbs down to THC in the decarb process, so part of me thinks that they isolate those numbers because of what can be done after the flower is actually harvested. THC-A can be isolated into rather potent concentrates and i wonder if that is part of the way that they test. Im not 100% sure as i have no idea on the theory its based on and this is the first time that i have had actual numbers on the progeny that i have produced from the crosses.
So the name, it comes from the name of the farm. The farm that i am working with is Black Smith Farms. They wanted a custom in house strain something that they could put a name on that was something unique as well as one off. Given the name of the farm and the colors we came up with Anvil. Its part of the black smith process and it just fit for two reasons. The stone and the "theme" of the farm. The whites of the ALF#5 will be isolated and named something else to the effect of the theme. Im pushing for "The Forge" for the whites as it just sounds good.
You know, it's kinda weird-funny, this THC% thing, and the role terp's play... I've been trying out a couple vap' cart's (CO2 extracted), testing in upper 70%'s THC.... I'm finding that despite being very likely 3-4 fold higher in THC than what my buds are (not tested), it doesn't kick like it at all!
.. after the first tries of them, "newness" factor gone, they just don't feel
that strong, nor is the nature of the buzz as good as bud,.. even with the "terp's added back in", the effect is muted, flat,... Buds still hit in a way that
feels more potent, side effects much more pronounced, nature of the high is distinctly more complex,... So, I take such numbers with a grain of salt!
I am the same, i take the numbers with a grain of salt. Being in a place where numbers are listed on the back of the package rather than just buds in the bottom of a plastic bag, at first i was all about them. Until i noticed what you mentioned. The numbers on the buds were lower than the concentrates of course but the effect when i smoked them was completely night and day. For example, smoking some bruce banner flower had a more complex high than the bruce banner wax that i had. The flower had a more complex high, longer lasting and more rounded, for lack of a better word. The Wax was a straight missile, a quick rise and blast to the head that ended quickly.
Ive noticed something in pressing the ALF flower especially the same generation at the farm. They are more like a crumble/wax after a night of settle. Initially on paper they are the gummy sticky results of rosin that we commonly see, some even more like shatter. Then after being in an air tight container over night they morph into more of a wax/crumble consistency. This result has me looking at the THC-A numbers rather than the THC ones. I think that the state requires the testing methods. What the actual THC % is and then the "other" Cannabinoids contained in the flower, which i think comes back to the lack of research on what is actually in the plant and what it means. Im looking at it because of the heat that is applied in the pressing process that is low enough to decarb the flower but not destroy the compounds contained in it. Initially i thought that this was a result of Terp evaporation but after seeing it in a 3rd air tight container and pressed at the same time i pressed commercial flower at the same temps that never made the shift.
You've perked a thought that i was sitting here trying to understand and i may babble a bit but i have been lost in theory so you asked for this.
THC-A breaks down in the decarb process to become THC, we do this to "activate" flower to make edibles so the fat can metabolize it.. Typical temps to do this are around 200-220 degrees ( sorry EU guys).
In the Pressing process i get fantastic results around those temps. However the ALF line turns to the crumble/wax where other (also unknown content of THC-A because all we get on package is total %) strains keep the gummy/caramel consistency that we all see, even the keif i pressed from alf did this. It makes me wonder if the combo of the THC and the THC-A are giving me different results when the heat is applied. Id like to take another tested sample and press it at the same temps along side ALF and see what the 24 hour results are.
I appreciate the kind words mate, i really do. They are something to see that is for sure. Walking in there each week is THE highlight of my week.i cant take enough pics and they just dont do them justice when i do. They are so rich in color.
Night temps are not allowed to dip below 60. The houses are temp controlled so they dont stop the photosynthesis process. Pre-flower clusters were showing all the way out to the sugar leaf from inward out. Which is typical in expression on them, or at least what i have seen in indoor temps that were controlled. I have also seen enough whites in the line that are of the same pheno expression that dont show a drop of color. This is in the shorter version and as well in the taller version of the plant. If you ever find your way up here you wont need to beat out grandma, you just let me know when you are in town and well go for a ride mate.
Holy crap, who knew a race of giants was luring in that woodpile, right?? 7-8' in a greenhouse
,... nice paring with the Hashbat pheno'!
... so, what were the finish times on the first round? How far behind are the giants? Hmmm, to breed more speed into them, and keep the size,...
...a zippy pheno' showing would help too!
Yeah, that is something that i never expected. They just took off on me, the mother was a beast in 1 gal of soil, i remember her very well and what she did in that grow bag was just stunning. I had an idea that they would get big if allowed but didnt expect that result.
Jem roughly 70 days from sprout to harvest
Shorter Anvil 75-80 days
Monsters are still rolling and have some time ahead of them, i figure 100 days + There are a few in that side that are more advanced and quicker with the size but id love to combine the speed of the shorter ones with the size of the larger ones.
... the KIS soil, a local product? Very enticing,... I'd love to try a bag!
@KIS is local to WA and i know that they are on site from time to time. Honestly a great organic soil, the only thing that was added is a brewed tea here and there. Most of the time they are fed with straight well water, and they are banging in it. Watching them grown in this has been amazing. I have no dog in the fight other than watching these gals thrive in the product.
.... strain line-up is very nice,...What have you tried so far? That DSG is talking to me, so is the OM,... DC! --there's an honorable ancestor I'm dyin' to try, never had before,... Ooo, what's the scoop on the O' Cough?
I have had a few of their products before we hooked up. The ones that i provided i have yet to try other than the DC. OM is an F1 from a group out of Michigan that i acquired so we could see all kinds of fun shit there, the other testers were very nice.
DC i am most excited for, i am BX'ing the ALF and creating more seed. This is one that needs to be preserved.
O Cough is something i picked up in the south, seed form and from a local guy. Family line and tasted like orange candy and less towards the citrus side. Shes a hyb and for now just hoping to get a male and a female that are decent enough to pass along the traits. Maybe a mate with the OM is in order.
.... I want them for landscaping plants! 
