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I'm gonna go with one of the sponsor LED company's on my next purchase and use my clown LED for my new veg shelf.

I've seen YouTube videos of people getting impressive yield with one of these Appollo Horticulture lights . I'm not to worried right now
have a look into cob lighting mate. led but better. im forever being slagged about my blurples lol.
 
Allways remember COBs will put out a lot of photons. But not the heat that HID makes. For this reason COBs will always be better
Alot less heat and plenty of photons ..plus There low on power cost... Ill never use HID again.. Its just to old of technology.
 
My old HPS bulb would run well into 500F temp.. Just to make 80K lumin. My VR29s run 17k lumin x4 at just 90F do the math.
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aw what man your off your head. it breaks me like. end up slavouring down my chin and arguing with myself by the end of it. would rather deap throat a chainsaw than do the amount of trimming i see some guys on here doing.

There's one I haven't heard before but so true... Lol :rofl: Trimming for me takes hours per plant and it sucks... Ah such troubles... :rofl:
 
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