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LOL! I just woke up and found this was still going on.

I saw the chat earlier thought id put my theory out there.
If you cross an auto x photo no matter what u do even if you breed away from the "auto gene" the auto will become dominate. People who read about breeding will tell you the auto gene is a recessive trait because u dont see autos in the first gen offspring but this is true for other traits like smell, color, structure but it is not for what people like to call the "auto gene" you can see autos in F1 generations and but what autoflowering actually is, is this a Mutation that be comes dominate, which = Evolution. A mutation that is positive for the well being of the plant will become dominate and the plant will evolve so that all of its offspring have that gene but seeing there is no such evidence of an auto gene i say we cant keep callin it that. There is proof of an "flowering" gene that triggers a plant to flower once its senses a change in light hours, it is far more efficient for a plant to turn off the flowering response gene than it is to create something from nothing you have to GM a cannabis plant for it to create a new gene and you cant say auto breeders are doing that with crossing the very pollen the plant is producing on its own. Photo growers will tell you photo sensitive and autoflower are two completely different gene pools when there is no evidence to support that either. Early day cannabis was wild growing with semi low thc % same with the first autoflowers it took breeders to take a afghan x thai x mexico to create a trainwreck or a india x brazil to get a white widow. Theres early photo strains that where F20+ before they were ready. It took the same with breeding autos but since grow so fast it too half to the time to reach the level they are now and since photoperiod plants were already so advance cross breeding more of them only help further and created better autos. If there is anyone that can show me a straight ruderalis plant i will give u free pack of seeds. to my knowledge it doesnt exist All rudy came's a native photo plant the went auto on its own to improve its cycle. You can not take a semi auto or fast flower plant to F5 and expect them to stay 100% photo sensitive. FV and superautos are about(key word) the same thing and the only way to produce a steady stock is to take a female auto reverse it and cross it to a clone of your mother photo plant and do this over and over again when u need new stock. Sweet seeds have mastered this they are great at what they do they only work with fems so being the great breeders they are they can do the same cross over and over again with little to no difference between batches.
Look at it like this you cross an
auto x photo
F1= Fast Versions
F2= SuperAuto
F3= Full Auto or 2nd Gen Super auto depending on breeders selection
F4-F5 no matter what your going to get plants that flower on their own. I know i might rattle some cages with that but it makes way more sense than that what we have been told for years, now auto gene no such thing.

I do not understand all of it.

But I see this:
"the only way to produce a steady stock is to take a female auto reverse it and cross it to a clone of your mother photo plant and do this over and over again when u need new stock.
Sweet seeds have mastered this..."

So semi-autos or super-autos can be made stable, if a company is dedicated is that what you're saying?
 
I've never known this before. And - proudly - I passed around some of the Think Big I grew out and cured. Dense nugs, a little fuel tasting at the back, but - heavy lifting 3 hit gone gear.

Silence at the table for a couple of minutes while everyone was taking it in. I was on the moon.

thanks for sharing Ash - special that.....I've never known that existed before now....

My think fast photo i grew last year was uber potent too...i realllllllllllllllllllllly got screwed up smoking that strain!!
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My think fast photo i grew last year was uber potent too...i realllllllllllllllllllllly got screwed up smoking that strain!!
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bang boom right there man. Beautiful snaps, great looking weed....tossed some rep :slap:...hope we can smoke sometime....can always do it virtual....great smashing weed dude....

firing up a toke now man.....peace....
 
Cannabis isn't the only thing it can be interesting to look back on the selective breeding on. Was reading an article recently on some fruits and vegetables and what they used to look like before we selective bred them for a few hundred (thousand?) years.

For example, what watermelon supposedly looked like back in the 1600's.....
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Yep, very intriguing stuff.
 
I've never known this before. And - proudly - I passed around some of the Think Big I grew out and cured. Dense nugs, a little fuel tasting at the back, but - heavy lifting 3 hit gone gear.

Silence at the table for a couple of minutes while everyone was taking it in. I was on the moon.

thanks for sharing Ash - special that.....I've never known that existed before now....
It probably also has to do with (edited) handling the buds. Packaging, moving, repackaging and so forth. Trichs are very fragile. A part of the potency from shop bought weed gets lost during logistics, I think.
 
bang boom right there man. Beautiful snaps, great looking weed....tossed some rep :slap:...hope we can smoke sometime....can always do it virtual....great smashing weed dude....

firing up a toke now man.....peace....

Thanks for the rep bud!! Sorry, but i dont skype or any of the techy online stuff.
 
What you think of the kushncheese ?I'm growing one in organic living coco I have a feeling it's going to be off the chain .


Absolutely DELICIOUS!!! frosty as all get out. Very creamy vanilla smell... Linlool terp heavy.. Will grow again in a bigger container for sure!!
 
Guys can anyone tell me if I'm doing this ok for my first attempt at lst? I've supported the stem and bent over the top. Does it look OK or have I bent it down too much? Just want to see im doing this ok before doing the other 4 lol
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Guys can anyone tell me if I'm doing this ok for my first attempt at lst? I've supported the stem and bent over the top. Does it look OK or have I bent it down too much? Just want to see im doing this ok before doing the other 4 lol
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You got it :thumbsup:
 
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