Hey nben thanks for posting about your experience that sounds like a cool method 
CS or STS that is the Question!!!
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This is what I have been looking for!
I've been hitting my girl with 30ppm storebought colloidal for 24 days now, no nanners. I may have started late, at week 5, just as the tops were getting hairy.
How long, on average, does it usually take to see the male seed sacs?
I know there's no definitive answer, I'm just thinking maybe I messed up using the store bought silver, or started too late, or, I mean, hey, you tell me, I wanna learn!
I've been hitting my girl with 30ppm storebought colloidal for 24 days now, no nanners. I may have started late, at week 5, just as the tops were getting hairy.
How long, on average, does it usually take to see the male seed sacs?
I know there's no definitive answer, I'm just thinking maybe I messed up using the store bought silver, or started too late, or, I mean, hey, you tell me, I wanna learn!
No longer than 3 weeks.
Well, shit. I'm doing STS next time, no playing around, I was able to get the base chems to treat hundreds of plants for less than I paid for colloidal, and I understand the STS is guaranteed. Toxic - yeah, and meh, I wont smoke that plant. Thanks!
Think about making one reversal with homemade CS and clones just to teach yourself.
Consider this scenario:
Super Duper Auto Strain ONE FREE BEAN on your next order. You only have one bean! You could use STS and get pollen. You could also do what I do and have at least a taste of what the Super Duper Auto has to offer. Oh, and 200 more seeds or so... And maybe pollen to breed with (this remains to be seen per my previous post). If you are trying to mass produce seeds STS is the way to go. If you are a hobby grower like me and just grow a plant or two at a time... Ya, CS is the way to go
For what it's worth there's a whole can of worms in opinions on what happens if you self a plant by changing one branch and allowing self-pollination. Many of the facts lead down the road to hermie-ville. Depending on whom you believe haha
One last thing... Homemade CS is way better than anything bought. I tried Tiresias mist. I also needed to teach myself how to make my own to continue with the reversal after my Tiresias supply ran out (2 bottles).
Side note: Pistils change almost immediately with homemade CS. At least overnight you will notice "the withering". I can't stress enough, if you are a hobby grower this is the way to go
Not at all dissing STS however! This magical combination of minerals and chemicals has provided me with every seed I have ever bought, I'm sure!
Consider this scenario:
Super Duper Auto Strain ONE FREE BEAN on your next order. You only have one bean! You could use STS and get pollen. You could also do what I do and have at least a taste of what the Super Duper Auto has to offer. Oh, and 200 more seeds or so... And maybe pollen to breed with (this remains to be seen per my previous post). If you are trying to mass produce seeds STS is the way to go. If you are a hobby grower like me and just grow a plant or two at a time... Ya, CS is the way to go
For what it's worth there's a whole can of worms in opinions on what happens if you self a plant by changing one branch and allowing self-pollination. Many of the facts lead down the road to hermie-ville. Depending on whom you believe haha
One last thing... Homemade CS is way better than anything bought. I tried Tiresias mist. I also needed to teach myself how to make my own to continue with the reversal after my Tiresias supply ran out (2 bottles).
Side note: Pistils change almost immediately with homemade CS. At least overnight you will notice "the withering". I can't stress enough, if you are a hobby grower this is the way to go
Not at all dissing STS however! This magical combination of minerals and chemicals has provided me with every seed I have ever bought, I'm sure!
I do see where you're coming from - I'm not in that boat though, the plant I want to use as a father is the same type I am growing 5 of now, so I will likely have an over-abundance of bounty to last me well through the sacrifice of one of their sisters.
I really want to run a big project with this, get about 6-7 different strains, and use one forced male to pollinate them all, boom, 6 flavors of hybrid vigor, and I want to be assured that the pollen is going to be there when I need it - and the CS has already failed me once.
I'm open to experimentation down the road, maybe make my own CS next time, it seems like that had to do with it, from what I've heard from now 3 ppl. I got achey-breakey-hearted by CS, and already have the chems for STS, so... you know...
Thx tho!!!
I really want to run a big project with this, get about 6-7 different strains, and use one forced male to pollinate them all, boom, 6 flavors of hybrid vigor, and I want to be assured that the pollen is going to be there when I need it - and the CS has already failed me once.
I'm open to experimentation down the road, maybe make my own CS next time, it seems like that had to do with it, from what I've heard from now 3 ppl. I got achey-breakey-hearted by CS, and already have the chems for STS, so... you know...
Thx tho!!!
New female seedling from that grow
And attitude sent me the riggr afghan kush ryder seed after letting them know they sent wrong seed. You cant mention germination though.
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