Indoor Cream Caramel Auto

[texasboy26]

plants look fine! don't -+overcomplicate. or worry to much i don't see any lockout! they look good:buds:i will catch hell for this, but i am not so sure a ph meter is the best solution for small grow problems. if you have 30 plants going, yes a ph meter is good but if your growing a couple of plants, and see a problem, it can be diagnosed and fixed without a ph meter. there is enough info on this forum alone to make a diagnosis without a ph meter. i have had many outdoor grows, some with problems that have been corrected without the use of ph pens. and into my third grow indoors without the use of ph meters. i am going to cath hell for this statement!

Get over it and get a meter.
Forget about catching hell, you dont have a choice

 

[astronomy420a]

oh yes i do mate! if ifind i need it i will get one, i have my doubts about it being needed.

 

[angelopoulosm]

plants look fine! don't -+overcomplicate. or worry to much i don't see any lockout! they look good:buds:i will catch hell for this, but i am not so sure a ph meter is the best solution for small grow problems. if you have 30 plants going, yes a ph meter is good but if your growing a couple of plants, and see a problem, it can be diagnosed and fixed without a ph meter. there is enough info on this forum alone to make a diagnosis without a ph meter. i have had many outdoor grows, some with problems that have been corrected without the use of ph pens. and into my third grow indoors without the use of ph meters. i am going to cath hell for this statement!

Thank you astro! well I wasn't going to overcomplicate stuff, but as my plants went into late flowering, Im seeing old leaves yellowing and falling off, and for a plant that is suppose to avg yield 100g I'm prob looking at something more like 15-20g.

As I'm feeding I can only think of pH lock out.

Would a flush do them good?


Update, pH reading from water with nutes in is at 6.8 6.9, so ye it looks like its not pH lock out

 

[angelopoulosm]

My sick leaves...

 

[Scott817]

Thank you astro! well I wasn't going to overcomplicate stuff, but as my plants went into late flowering, Im seeing old leaves yellowing and falling off, and for a plant that is suppose to avg yield 100g I'm prob looking at something more like 15-20g.

As I'm feeding I can only think of pH lock out.

Would a flush do them good?

Update, pH reading from water with nutes in is at 6.8 6.9, so ye it looks like its not pH lock out

This strain does not average 100grams and you will be hard pressed to find any autoflower not in the superauto class grown indoors that will produce anywhere near that weight on average. Most autos run from 3/4-1.5 ounce average for most normal indoor growers so dont be to disappointed in your first grow. The more your grow and learn the better yields you can get and can end up in the 1.5-2.5 ounce per plant pretty easy after awhile.

You need to check your ph at run off to really see what the plant is really getting. Do a flush and check the water run off and see what the ph is at that point. If you want your plants to have their best chance at larger yields you will have to watch your pH closely. Many people seem to get by without out them and it may have to do with the ph of the water in their local area but its always a good investment if you are going to continue to grow.

 

[angelopoulosm]

This is what Royal Queen Seeds state http://www.royalqueenseeds.com/145-royal-creamatic-.html

Scott do you think there could be salts accumilated in the soil? So I could benifit from a flush?

 

[Scott817]

This is what Royal Queen Seeds state http://www.royalqueenseeds.com/145-royal-creamatic-.html

Scott do you think there could be salts accumilated in the soil? So I could benifit from a flush?

I have never grown anything from that breeder to date but I wouldn't put too much stock in their claims. Some breeders post numbers from the best optimal grow and do not say if those numbers were done in soil, soiless or hydro or indoors or outdoors but I dont recall seeing any strains in the small to med class that can get 1/4 pound. Now its not impossible and I average more than what the short stuff seeds growers claim for their breeds but the numbers are much lower(example ShortStuffSeeds claims M-5 to yield 25-50grams for a medium size auto) so you just have to use some common sense and experience will get help you learn what to expect from a strain.

It never hurts to give your plants a good flush. I do this normally probably twice in a 70 day strain as over fertilizing can leave behind nasty salts or nutes in the soil making it hard for the plant to use it all so I would definitely give them a 2x pot volume flush and then reset your nute regiment after they dry out again.

When growing with LED's some of us have found that we use the veg nutes longer and have to add cal/mag on a continual basis to help with the efficiency of the broad spectrum range of the led lights.

 

[angelopoulosm]

Thank you Scott, much appreciated!

 

[Scott817]

anytime amigo! Best of luck in your future grows as well.

 

[Stunted]

Just caught up, not bad Angelo :thumbs:
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Stunted Flush
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