Colloidal Silver for breeding purposes

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BamaGrow

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I have a few questions for anyone that is using CS for seeding purposes. I am about to germ four different strains today for the purpose of starting my seed collection. My plans are to start four plants of different strains and those will be my female donors(I have fem seeds) and then start four plants that I will use the colloidal silver on to herm and pollinate the females. I have been searching the internet for days and there is a lot of information out there about using colloidal silver but I haven't found one person that has documented anything as far as time frame and such. From what I have read, it appears that you begin spraying the females a day before flowering begins and continue spraying throughout the flowering process until male sacs begin to form.

My main question is this, what kind of timeframe am I looking at between getting male sacs to develop and when I should be pollinating my females. Should I germ my plants I intend to herm a week or so prior to germing the females to give the pollen sacs time to mature? The last thing I want is my ladies to be developing flowers and me still waiting on the pollen sacs of the others.

With all that being said, it is my intention to document my process from beginning to end with pictures and a step by step guide for AFN. I will be using Dutch Passion's Blueberry, Dutch Passion's Polar Light, Short Stuff's Blue Himalaya, and Dinafem's Fruit.

Stay tuned.
 
I'm trying CS right now on a Magic Dragon female . Using 240 ppm CS and hitting her 2-3 times a day . Will see how it turns out . If it works I plan on doing around 12 strains for fem seeds as well as using the fem pollen for some crosses .
 
You have the time to start spraying right down almost. I wait until the first bud appears on the top of the female who will be the target. I used to spray them every day but now I find every three days is fine. I cut the first two branches and bottom leaves off to get a little better access to the soil immediatly around the stock. Water your plant well before spraying so the soil is damp. I use a windex bottle as a spray bottle and I give it 10 full stroke sprays. It doesn't matter if you get some on the lower branches it doesn't seem to hurt the plant. Three days later repeat the process. Some plants require different times for the male plants to develope stamens. The first stamens take at least a week and full conversion occurs around three weeks after spraying starts. There are different factors in place. The ppm of the silver solution and the breed of the plant mostly. I like temperatures over 75 F for some reason it seems to work better.

I plant them all at the same time. The one I am going to convert and the straight females who will bear the seeds. I actually like three plants or more 1 for the one you will spray to convert and several to bear seeds. If you are going to go to all this trouble make some seeds. The females just get more ready as they wait for the male to develope.

I am a shaker not a paint brush guy. I just shake the plant over the females each day. If you are a paint brush guy go your direstion. I don't save pollen by freezing it but I don't have a good reason not to. I just haven't done it.

Good luck with it.
 
Nelson, you are the shiznit! Thanks for the info. So, if I am hearing you correctly, you are not seeing any problems with viable seeds if both plants are germinated at the same time? By the timing you laid out, I am looking at about 2-3 weeks until plant sexes. Immediately start spraying, I am looking at another three weeks after spraying to see sacs, then I assume a week or so till I begin getting pollen. That is about 7 weeks, give or take. In my humble opinion, that don't give much time for seed development taking into account 4 to 6 weeks for viable seed. Am I wrong here or miscalculating my times? Thanks again for your assistance.
 
My experience is that female plants of the auto don't sex until about 5 weeks. Some a little quicker and some a little later. All the rest of the information applies to both. Pick up the info for autos at the photo paragraph at spraying.

If you talking about photos then you have to grow them up to about a foot high. This is about six weeks and again this is just my guess as an average time. Then you have to put them under 12/12 light to sex them. In about two weeks they will start to sex. Then you start to spray then you have to wait another few weeks for the spray to take effect. Then you go through polinating another 2 to 3 weeksThen the seeds have to grow and mature this takes 3 weeks to a month. My guess is it takes 16 weeks in all to complete the photo fem seed making. Maybe a little more. It is time to get going for femmed seeds for next year.


Nelson, you are the shiznit! Thanks for the info. So, if I am hearing you correctly, you are not seeing any problems with viable seeds if both plants are germinated at the same time? By the timing you laid out, I am looking at about 2-3 weeks until plant sexes. Immediately start spraying, I am looking at another three weeks after spraying to see sacs, then I assume a week or so till I begin getting pollen. That is about 7 weeks, give or take. In my humble opinion, that don't give much time for seed development taking into account 4 to 6 weeks for viable seed. Am I wrong here or miscalculating my times? Thanks again for your assistance.
 
Sure thanks for the rep. Glad to help out with something I know a little about. If you ever get a perpetual bubbly tank grow or a femmed seed mod you could let me know. I sure wouldn't want the job that Muddy. Joe and Jackal do. they do it great but I sure wouldn't.


Nelson - Thanks for stepping up & helping out!
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Bama how far are ya from Florala or Pensacola? :) I've got lots of experience with CS :thumbs:
 
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