Cloning clones and taking more clones?

[karlkutta]

Howdy folks! I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend.

I am cloning some photoperiod plants and started to flower the donor plant once I see the clones starting to grow.

I am wondering if taking clones from clones and keeping this cycle will causes some deterioration down the road.
Personally, I think it would be ok because the genetics are not affected when taking a clone but I see different opinions on it and thought I raise the question.

My idea is to grow a clone out, take a few cuttings, and then flower the mother and essentially have the new clones become new mother's that I can take a few clones from and then flower these mother's.l... Etc.


Thoughts?

Thanks
Karl

 

[Skellycrew]

This is a debatable topic but I have personally seen my Dad ruin genetics by doing this. I forget the actual number of "copies of copies" before the gene pool gets watered down, but I'm pretty sure he did it a good 5 or 6 times before he started to notice what was happening.

 

[Arthur]

Nope. I have growers around me that have had the same cut going for almost 20 yrs. Your not adding, or taking away, not copying... it IS the original plant.

 

[Proph]

This is how all of the world renowned cuts have lasted over 30 years. It's fine to do. Chem D and chem 91 for example have been around since the 70s. If its a stable plant, you won't have any issues. Skunk VA has been running the same chem 91 cut for 25 yrs.

 

[karlkutta]

Thanks for the input. Looks like the debate continues. I am going to give this a shot and see where we end up while making some seeds along the way.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

We take clones to take as new mothers each cycle at our commercial grow (so we don't have the same mother, just clones from the previous round, and on and on.) We haven't noticed anything weird/funky as of yet.

This is how all of the world renowned cuts have lasted over 30 years. It's fine to do. Chem D and chem 91 for example have been around since the 70s. If its a stable plant, you won't have any issues. Skunk VA has been running the same chem 91 cut for 25 yrs.

Do you believe in genetic drift?

 

[Proph]

We take clones to take as new mothers each cycle at our commercial grow (so we don't have the same mother, just clones from the previous round, and on and on.) We haven't noticed anything weird/funky as of yet.



Do you believe in genetic drift?

I do. But in the canna world, we seem to use the term incorrectly. From what I know about it, genetic drift applies only to populations of organisms that reproduce sexually. When we’re talking about cloning cannabis, we’re dealing with only one organism. Of course, we may produce thousands of copies of that individual plant, but it’s still only one plant. There’s (hopefully) no pollination going on, so genetic drift does not apply. If a clone of a clone is losing quality, then I lean towards bad genetics.

 

[Death The Cultivator]

You have to watch out for diseases being transferred from the donor plant but genetic drift doesn't apply