Bone Meal ? and a Party Cup ?

[FullDuplex]

Yeah I really need to get a meter. Me having a red/green color deficiency in my eyesight doesn't help either.
I've seen a soil one that got decent reviews for about $35-$40. Just tough this time of the year for me. So I'm trying to make it work with what I have.

**EDIT**
Well I just tested my water after bubbling and the pH went up. So I'm wondering if that's been the problem.
I didn't think I'd have to check the pH after bubbling my water. I wonder what makes the pH raise from bubbling.

The bubbling shouldn't do either just keep it balanced but if its raising it or changing it there may be somthng in the stone or on the lines. I would make sure to clean everything each time I added water to a jug and the air lines and stones.

 

[Slow2Gro]

Well I have some lead fishing weights holding down the air stone and I have paperclips holding the lead weights on the air stone. Could that be what's changing my pH?

Here are some updated pics. Not looking too good. Man this sucks arse.
Should I start plucking some of these leaves, or just leave them so my other leaves don't start getting damaged?

 

[FullDuplex]

Well I have some lead fishing weights holding down the air stone and I have paperclips holding the lead weights on the air stone. Could that be what's changing my pH?

There is the problem mate, those two are most likely poisoning the plants, or at least the lead is. Ever wonder why some states make it mandatory to use steel shot in a shot gun load rather than lead? A good deal of game that is hunted with a shotty are near or around water, the lead in the water isn't good for the fish, some prey eat the fish and then the lead poisoning then transfers to the game. Same thing here, that lead is secreting toxins into your water, and i can only think the air in there is fueling the process.

Get some clean water as soon as you can, you are seeing a toxic reaction here i think. This explains why the pH is all over the place and what is going on with the plants. I would bet that once you clean the water up and get some good pH balanced distilled water they'll turn around. Flush them good, they will need the two to one on the flush. If its in a gallon use two, do it lightly and be patient with them. Its gonna take a while.

 

[sniper]

hey fd good to see you back

slow2gro if you still need to weight down your air stone you can get nontoxic fishing sinkers i had to use them with my old pump i put them on a piece of fishing line and tied it to the stone

 

[Muddy]

Good call FD. The devil is in the details.

There is the problem mate, those two are most likely poisoning the plants, or at least the lead is. Ever wonder why some states make it mandatory to use steel shot in a shot gun load rather than lead? A good deal of game that is hunted with a shotty are near or around water, the lead in the water isn't good for the fish, some prey eat the fish and then the lead poisoning then transfers to the game. Same thing here, that lead is secreting toxins into your water, and i can only think the air in there is fueling the process.

Get some clean water as soon as you can, you are seeing a toxic reaction here i think. This explains why the pH is all over the place and what is going on with the plants. I would bet that once you clean the water up and get some good pH balanced distilled water they'll turn around. Flush them good, they will need the two to one on the flush. If its in a gallon use two, do it lightly and be patient with them. Its gonna take a while.

 

[Slow2Gro]

I guess good thing I mentioned that. Well I need to find the non-toxic weights or figure out another way to hold done the air stone.
Well now I need to figure out the best/cheapest way to buy distilled water cause I need 12 gallons of it.
I think maybe I might just start buying distilled water for my waterings and pH them up to 6.3 (or as close to it as I can).
Thank you much for that help and advice.
I just watered them last night, would it be ok to flush them tomorrow?

 

[FullDuplex]

Im so not Hijacking this thread but HOLY COW sniper, that JEM is jaw dropping. job well done mate. That cup in the middle brings a tear to my eye

 

[sniper]

Im so not Hijacking this thread but HOLY COW sniper, that JEM is jaw dropping. job well done mate. That cup in the middle brings a tear to my eye

:thumbs:

 

[Slow2Gro]

Ok well I bought 12 gallons of water tonight, BUT they didn't have 12 gallons of distilled water, so I had to get 6 distilled and 6 Drinking.
Is that going to be a problem? I was planning on mixing 3 distilled with 3 drinking to flush each plant (they are in 3 gallon bags).
I plan on testing pH of distilled and drinking now to see if there's a difference. Then put equal drops in each to try and get as close to 6.3-6.5 as I can.

Drinking Processed by:Carbon Filtration, Micron Filtration, Ozonation
Distilled Processed by:Steam Distillation, Ozonation

So I hope mixing them and getting drinking water won't affect it too much. I figured it's better than my Tap water either way.
Also since I watered last night should I wait to flush them or still do it ASAP?

I also found a nice big round flat rock to zip tie to my air stone too to keep it from floating. I plan on boiling the rock before I use it.

**EDIT**
Also after I add the pH down/up about how long do I need to shake the gallon(s) of water?
I usually shake the shit out of them (for a good couple mins) and was wondering if that was too much shaking and if I could get away with just a couple shakes?
What do you guys do?

 

[Slow2Gro]

Well I flushed them last night 3 gal Distilled, 3 gal Drinking water (pH best I could) each plant. Was a pain in the ass as I flush/water over a 5 gallon bucket. So I had to remove and empty the bucket a few times during flush. Not a fun task through my little doorway. pH'ing and shaking up 12 (individual) gallons of water wasn't fun either, BUT I'm hoping it will all be worth it.

I also transplanted my OO x KSb's in party cups into some 1 gallon bags. They are on day 17 I believe. Hoping I can sexy them soon, but I really have no idea what they avg. time is to beable to sex plants.