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@BigSm0 I only seem to be able to get 1212s at what I class as a sensible price(did you buy all the 1812s in the world?). Will I be happy enough with them compared to a couple of (for example) ViparSpectra panels? Tent space is 120cmx 80cm x 180cm high. I've had a 400w HPS in there before, in a parabolic. How will the 1212s compare against the 400w? It was a dual spectrum bulb. I'm really keen to lower the heat and want to keep it as quiet as possible.
I did buy all the 1812's lol. If your happy with your results I'd go with half of what you have now with cobs. Not just any cobs these amazing Cree and citizen brand
 
@BigSm0, how well do cobs tolerate heat? At what % of full power can they be run without fan?
Lots of folks push the limits with cobs but I personally don't like to see much over 75 watts. It starts defeating the purpose. Max efficiency is at lower amperages
 
You mentioned to me that skipping the led phase and going straight to cob from CFL would be better. I understand that the light is superior, but being a new grower, will I really see the results? Are the benefits multifaceted? Would it be a viable move to buy an LED light and hack it once its useful life is over or is the shell useless without the specific light setup that comes installed?
 
Whoa whoa guys listen to some music while we guve Biggie some time to catch up!!! Working on a phone can be a pain...I know
 
You mentioned to me that skipping the led phase and going straight to cob from CFL would be better. I understand that the light is superior, but being a new grower, will I really see the results? Are the benefits multifaceted? Would it be a viable move to buy an LED light and hack it once its useful life is over or is the shell useless without the specific light setup that comes installed?
Hey @The Elvis post some pics of yoir plants
 
Hi Big and thanks for being here and all the help you have been providing to the community and to myself as well.
Since you are Inside the world of COB LED. Is there a market gap were all the cheap LED flood the market and then the actual ones with quality and specs you might want cost a fortune.
But looking at all the ingredients to actually make a (not pretty but fully functional) good COB system the price does not add up! And we the average customers with no DYI capacity end up loosing.
So your knowledge and will to share it, is actually giving us a chance to if with a bit of skills we can achieve a 1000Euros COB system for half the price.
And that to me is something I have to bow down to.
 
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