Outdoor After june 21 photos started outside are super autos

[stonemaster]

Photos started outside after the summer soltice grow for 1 month then begin flowering.I was going to plant another group of autos soon to replace the pfotos soon to be harvested. I just remembered that we used to plant photos now and they wound only get a couple of feet tall and would take 3 months total from seed to harvest.Sounds like super autos doesn't it?I have many photo seeds given as freebees as I spent many hunderds on autos this year. Hear is what I started soaking today.
8 ball kush
vanilla kush
train wreck
red dragon cream caramel
wappablue dream haze
super haze
blue lemen thai
sensi star
Also photos are easyier to start in the wild without a 2 week indoor time. I am going to breed them all to a budda syrupforced male.

 

[stonemaster]

I posted this thread on the middle of aug. and no one responded. Maybe there was no interest in using photos as autos, or no one beleived me. If you look in my thread photo verses auto, you will see what I mean. Not only are they growing just like super autos, they are out performing true autos in a test run. After one month of veg. they are combining flowering with a rapid growth stage that is capable of taking high doses of ferts. So all of you growers who got free photo beans with their orders of autos, simply wait until after the soltice and plant them outside. And no, they do not need an inside start or being very carfull with nuts. They can take it and cry for more. The falling number of daylight hours from the begining of their life cycle triggers an auto-like responce in their growth pattern. For inside growers this means that instead of using 18 hours for veging and 12 for flowering, another way is to is to start them under 18 hours and reduce it by 40 min. per day. This way they have more hours of light during it's flowering stage resulting in a bigger harvest from smaller plants. They don't get down to 12 and 12 until the last week. A true super auto would need 20 hours a day for the whole time. As the strongest photos are stronger than the strongest autos, for less elect. you have produced more and better for less expence. I started the other thread to prove what I was saying. There are ways other than uncluding rudaralis to it's genes to make super autos both inside and out.

 

[Mr Piggy]

Planting a photo plant late does not make it an auto, it's just a photo plant that got planted later in the year. The auto trait is genetic and not based on time. So, no, they are not super autos.

 

[Mr Piggy]

Shit, I just re-read that today and it came across terribly bitchy. My bad stone. The advantage to the auto trait really kicks in for those of us who have a shorter growing season with a nasty, wet fall. Now people up further north like me can grow 120 day flowering sativa plants outdoors and pull off a crop! If you plant a photo plant later in the year to keep it shorter for guerrilla growing (which I have also done many times) it's not auto-triggering, it's just following the normal photosensitive flowering protocol of start flowering late aug-early sep. I can put some MI5 girls outdoors in may and pull them in july before anyone's looking for plants to rip/bust. That's another auto advantage.

Anyway, just wanted to clear a few things up there.

 

[stonemaster]

No problem Mr.piggy. I am just tring to show nubies that those free photo seeds we all got with our auto orders can still be grown without getting huge and they BEHAVE like autos. I love the autos, and you are perfectly right about they excell at getting in an outside harvest in before anyone is really looking. At the same time I am trying to understand how the flowering responce is tyed to vigor. What I am coming to beleive is the main difference is in the roots of the autos. They behave like clones fresh out of the cloning tray. Both do poorly if put outside without an inside time, they both can take foliar feeding when young, but not feeding thru the roots and both are how I do small yeilding grows in places where a large plant would stick out. I am not saying autos are clones , just that they behave the same in the first trimester. Since I know that the underdeveloped roots are holding the clones back, it follows that the autos share this trait. Only by first finding the problem do we have a chance of fixing it. Just my thoughts on the subject. Not trying to offend anyone.