New Grower 1st organic (biobizz) grow..droopy,thin new growth light coloured leaves,red stems HELP!

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Hi this is my first post here and desperately need you 20180208_124436.jpg 20180208_124442.jpg 20180208_124505.jpg 20180208_124757.jpg veteran growers knowlege..
Northern lights auto from RQS x 2 (LST'd)
13l fabric smart pots
Biobizz light mix & bio grow/bloom/top
Veg 400w/flower 600w dual hps (due to keeping temps at correct level during cold spell) 24/0
Temps 70-78 Hum 40-50
33days from sprouting

As title....leaves drooping, thin light coloured new growth, red stems on fan leaves bottom fans yellowing brown patches-dieing!
Also have roots growing through base of pots
I know some might say overwatering but i can guarentee honestly im not...i water every 3 days when pots are light weight and finger in soil is dry past my knuckle...
Possibly overfed at start but only followed biobizz instructions in an email after contacting them following a concern that id presoaked soil after ph-ing my water with ph down (non organic)
'1ml/l biogrow after 2wks then at preflower to start adding bio bloom/top at 1ml/l increasing by 1ml weekly to max of 4-5ml/l'
Water is 7.8ph from tap so i lower with cider vinegar as the email said to do so if ph was above 7

Anyone have any ideas please
 
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Hi this is my first post here and desperately need youView attachment 861735 View attachment 861736 View attachment 861737 View attachment 861738 veteran growers knowlege..
Northern lights auto from RQS x 2 (LST'd)
13l fabric smart pots
Biobizz light mix & bio grow/bloom/top
Veg 400w/flower 600w dual hps (due to keeping temps at correct level during cold spell) 24/0
Temps 70-78 Hum 40-50
33days from sprouting

As title....leaves drooping, thin light coloured new growth, red stems on fan leaves bottom fans yellowing brown patches-dieing!
Also have roots growing through base of pots
I know some might say overwatering but i can guarentee honestly im not...i water every 3 days when pots are light weight and finger in soil is dry past my knuckle...
Possibly overfed at start but only followed biobizz instructions in an email after contacting them following a concern that id presoaked soil after ph-ing my water with ph down (non organic)
'1ml/l biogrow after 2wks then at preflower to start adding bio bloom/top at 1ml/l increasing by 1ml weekly to max of 4-5ml/l'
Water is 7.8ph from tap so i lower with cider vinegar as the email said to do so if ph was above 7

Anyone have any ideas please
Looks like my plant where a fan was blowing on the leaves and they got wind burn.

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Thanks Rollin i was beginning to wonder if my post was visible :shrug:
Its funny you say that ive just been in the tent 10mins ago and moved the fan blowing over them...the motor must have broke inside so it doesnt circulate so ive added another at angles to push air around the tent so i guess i will have to wait and see what happens...
Thanks again for the reply :bow::d5:
 
Can anyone help please before I lose my girls :bow:
 
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Hi this is my first post here and desperately need youView attachment 861735 View attachment 861736 View attachment 861737 View attachment 861738 veteran growers knowlege..
Northern lights auto from RQS x 2 (LST'd)
13l fabric smart pots
Biobizz light mix & bio grow/bloom/top
Veg 400w/flower 600w dual hps (due to keeping temps at correct level during cold spell) 24/0
Temps 70-78 Hum 40-50
33days from sprouting

As title....leaves drooping, thin light coloured new growth, red stems on fan leaves bottom fans yellowing brown patches-dieing!
Also have roots growing through base of pots
I know some might say overwatering but i can guarentee honestly im not...i water every 3 days when pots are light weight and finger in soil is dry past my knuckle...
Possibly overfed at start but only followed biobizz instructions in an email after contacting them following a concern that id presoaked soil after ph-ing my water with ph down (non organic)
'1ml/l biogrow after 2wks then at preflower to start adding bio bloom/top at 1ml/l increasing by 1ml weekly to max of 4-5ml/l'
Water is 7.8ph from tap so i lower with cider vinegar as the email said to do so if ph was above 7

Anyone have any ideas please
It looks like N tox. Those clawing leaves give it away. How much are you feeding of grow?
 
Hi pal they are looking a bit hungry to me, could be Nitrogen or Magnesium hard to tell with the color of the leaves under the HPS and my less than expert eye. What are you feed amount at the moment ? I have been using Bio Bizz for a while now and find it lacking in Calcium and Magnesium and always supplement every feed from about Day 21 onwards, and even add a small amount in one or two of the plain water feeds in the first couple of weeks to keep in top of it. I would also be using the grow at about 2ml/L for those first 3 weeks, but after that depending on the strain would be upping it to 2.5ml/L-3.5ml/L after that period as they are then getting more hungry by then.

Here are a couple of examples my feeds from the period your are at for the grow i got going on now to give you a rough idea. Have also linked to the infirmary where the cool kids and pros hang, post up there with some natural light pics and fill out the form in the sticky and you will get a solid diagnosis from people with way more neurons than me ;)

Alien Vs Triangle (looks to be a 75 day girl)

Code:
Day 21 - 2ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.2ml/L calmg @ 2L
Day 22 - X
Day 23 - X
Day 24 - 3ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.4ml/L calmg @ 2.5L
Day 25 - X
Day 26 - X
Day 27 - 3ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 2ml/L heaven + 1.4ml/L calmg @ 2.5L
Day 28 - X
Day 29 - X
Day 30 - 3ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.6ml/L calmg @ 3L
Day 31 - X
Day 32 - 2.5ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.4ml/L calmg @ 3.5L
Day 33 - X
Day 34 - X
Day 35 - 3ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 2ml/L heaven + 1.4ml/L calmg + BLOOM BACTERIAS @ 4L (48.5cm PM)
Day 36 - X
Day 37 - X
Day 38 - X
Day 39 - 3ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.6ml/L calmg + 2ml/L bloom @ 4L
Day 40 - X
Day 41 - X
Day 42 - 3ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.6ml/L calmg + 3ml/L bloom @ 4L

White Crack (looks to be a 85+ day girl)
Code:
Day 20 - 2ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.2ml/L calmg @ 2L
Day 21 - X
Day 22 - X
Day 23 - X
Day 24 - 2ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.2ml/L calmg @ 2L
Day 25 - X
Day 26 - X
Day 27 - 2.5ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.2ml/L calmg @ 2L
Day 28 - X
Day 29 - X
Day 30 - X
Day 31 - 2.5ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 2ml/L heaven + 1.4ml/L calmg @ 2.5L
Day 32 - X
Day 33 - X
Day 34 - X (27cm PM)
Day 35 - 3ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.4ml/L calmg @ 3L
Day 36 - X
Day 37 - X
Day 38 - 3ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 2ml/L heaven + 1.4ml/L calmg @ 4L
Day 39 - X
Day 40 - X
Day 41 - X
Day 42 - 3.5ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 1.6ml/L calmg + BLOOM BACTERIAS @ 4L
Day 43 - X
Day 44 - X
Day 45 - X
Day 46 - 3.5ml/L grow + 2ml/L algamic + 3ml/L heaven + 2ml/L calmg + 2ml/L bloom @ 4L


The Infirmary - https://www.autoflower.org/forums/autoflower-infirmary-for-sick-plants.90/
 
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It looks like N tox. Those clawing leaves give it away. How much are you feeding of grow?
HI Ribbzzy thats what I thought.. I did overfeed on the first feed instead of starting with low strength (1/4) like on my previous 'non-organic' grow but I was following emailed instructions from biobizz which tbh I doubted was correct but they'e supposed to be the experts right lol? I started at 1ml/l I've since dropped that to 0.5ml/l but on last feed 3days ago I added 1ml/l again?
Thanks for replying :bow:
 
HI Ribbzzy thats what I thought.. I did overfeed on the first feed instead of starting with low strength (1/4) like on my previous 'non-organic' grow but I was following emailed instructions from biobizz which tbh I doubted was correct but they'e supposed to be the experts right lol? I started at 1ml/l I've since dropped that to 0.5ml/l but on last feed 3days ago I added 1ml/l again?
Thanks for replying :bow:
No worries mate. I've found that when you have overfed N, calcium, then magnesium are the first things locked out. I'd feed a little alg a mic, or feed foliar with it, it works wonders. How much water per feed do you give them, what size pots ect?
 
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