USA Seed ban

Does anybody know how this is gonna affect us the United States? Apparently, on December 11, high THC cannabis plants are not gonna be protected under the hemp law. They are saying if the mother plant is above .3 THC then even her seeds are scheduled.

Would it still affect those in medical states? And what about recreational states?

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Roll the dice!

The idiots in Washington that made this debacle, don’t even know!

I think that after the election, Congress has to come back and agree on a continuance budget. I think it will be either the deadline extended or completely rescinded.

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The upcoming “seed ban” removes the federal hemp exemption for viable seeds produced by cannabis plants exceeding 0.3% total THC, including THCA.

It applies regardless of whether the seller is an established retailer, an informal breeder, or even someone giving seeds away.

As of November 1, 2026, the seed restriction is scheduled to apply December 11, 2026. The original November 12 date was affected by a September 2026 law temporarily limiting which portions of the amendment apply.

Here’s what the law change actually says:

The controlling provision is Public Law 119-37, Division B, §781, amending the hemp definition in 7 U.S.C. §1639o.

The exclusion begins:

“any viable seeds from a Cannabis sativa L. plant that exceeds a total tetrahydrocannabinols concentration”

The remainder specifies that THCA is included and sets the threshold at 0.3% in the plant, on a dry-weight basis. The legally significant distinction is the concentration in the source plant, rather than merely the concentration in the seed.

For legitimate, registered, legal companies that have been legally selling seeds that qualify under this change (while have record of the cultivation that originally produced those seeds) raises separate legal issues. Seed classification, cultivation authorization, state licensing, and business compliance are going to be real things that will likely be addressed on state levels; because the caveat is that seeds may meet the federal hemp definition, while growing the source plants can require a hemp or cannabis cultivation license.

So it doesn’t mean seeds are necessarily going away; it’s tightening up and restricting just WHO is able to get the proper licensing (and jump through proper hoops) to be able to retail those seeds.

We’ve already seen first-hand the implications with several well known breeders; these guys will either attempt to comply (absorb costs or stop sales,) while other breeders already disregarding the law may continue (and we know this is going to be a very real thing too.) This is a plausible market consequence (no one is stopping seed sales as a whole, but the slow-down is a real thing.)

Cannabis has never, ever played friendly with banking and credit card processing. Most cannabis companies operate under a shell company, a non-conspicuous LLC or registered entity that seems as far removed from pot as you can get. Even hemp-related product companies, who have far less restrictions in their market, would have a tough time getting processors to work with them. So this is going to directly affect any cannabis-friendly processors who may either cancel their processing altogether, or require proof of whatever the government is asking for in terms of compliance.

As to the shipping of seeds; who is checking for cannabis seeds? The USPS? A shipping service forced to be self sustaining on a mediocre budget and one of the most poorly managed shipping services in the country? The USPS that delivers all manner of drug packages stealth shipped all over the country? And not even just drugs, but other illegal contraband? Certainly not UPS or Fedex.

Further (and this one of the more substantial points IMO,) is that it still requires burden of proof. From a government standpoint (supported by existing hemp testing practices,) USDA uses representative plant sampling, specified timing, and laboratory analysis to determine potency. Most growers probably understand the changing potency as flower matures; but for an academic reference, NC State’s cultivar research also shows that cannabinoid accumulation changes over flowering and that cultivars reach the compliance threshold at different times. A cultivar description (what is on the website, what is written on the package) is different evidence from a properly identified source-plant measurement (but may still be admissible evidence, which I’ll touch base on below.)

Does the burden of “prove it” actually hold up in court though? Sloppy or loosely worded laws give a lot of open interpretation.

Under 21 U.S.C. §885(a)(1), someone claiming a CSA exemption or exception can bear the initial burden of bringing forward evidence supporting it. That is a burden of production, which differs from the government’s ultimate burden of proving a criminal charge.

Here’s a directly relevant case decision involving hemp: United States v. Rivera, Third Circuit, July 19, 2023.

Rivera argued that the government had failed to prove her cannabis exceeded 0.3% THC. The court rejected that argument because she had not produced evidence putting the hemp exception at issue. It treated hemp as an exception to the marijuana definition, rather than requiring prosecutors to disprove hemp status at the outset of every case. Rivera concerned cannabis material under the earlier definition; it did not decide the incoming seed-source provision. The relevance here is that “you never proved the THC percentage” is already an insufficient argument in some federal cannabis prosecutions.

There also lay the problem of possible evidentiary routes as burden of proof, such as looking at the marketing of said genetics (advertisements of high potency, high THC, etc.) Can you deny the potency of your genetics when you spent the last 6 months blowing up social media that you have the absolute fire and gas?

mic drop

drop-the-mic-obama-mic-drop

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The loophole is “Seeds from a high THC plant”. So are they going to test every seed they find? To do so they would either have to grow they out then test the plant,or extract DNA and hope To match it to a database and there are what now, 10,000 autos alone, that have never been cataloged? No there is no logical way to enforce this other than to confiscate all seeds, which will get legit businesses suing them.

So all it means is we’re back to square one. There will still be millions of seeds moving around the country.

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Right? I can’t even fathom “who is going to be realistically targeted” here. But it puts that doubt and fear in everyone’s ear, and that’s what makes it scary. And I think that was the point; let’s use fear to control people.

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Fear it the tool of every dictator/politician that wants to control the masses.

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I’ll just say this, as far as safely passing beans from one person to the other…

Everybody at one point has (maybe) found themselves hovering over a plate or an album and separating the seeds outta their buds so they can roll a floober (technical term lol)…

Now, imagine doing the same, but you’re separating the canna bean outta the store bought bird seed your friend hid it in.

If you know to look for ten beans or whatever, shouldn’t take but a second.

Just some food for thought…:baked:

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Have I ever told you about this idea I had called “butthole bears?”

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Listen, you’ve mentioned butt stuff one too many times to me this week. No more until tomorrow, when the count resets :funny: :funny: :funny:

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I was reading through some of the laws writing and they made it so that the growers have the burden enough proof when they ship it, the feds do not have to prove that it’s over .3 THC, the shipper has to prove that it, and its parents were below

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I use to buy a box of flower seeds from Dollar General. I’d carefully open the top and drop in a little ziplock with seeds in it. With my fancy label maker I’d make a little sticker saying Bonus Seeds inside! Then glue the top shut again… worked every time!

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That’s a great idea!

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I would be over the moon if my weed seeds showed up with a side of zinnias :devils-horn-smiley-emoticon: :funny:

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