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DDubs said:
I'm always skeptical about no pH monitoring. I think you still want to make sure you are close. Good luck
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I'm going to adjust it just to make sure as its pretty easy to do when I fill the res
Bob's Auto's said:
Brother...Ever since I went the BioTabs route I haven't used my pH or EC pen...For real. Got nothing to do with chemicals or additives, but rather a bacterial and mycorrhizal process going on in the soil and adjusting the pH and availability of nutrients. Oh...And worms, don't forget them little oxygen suppliers to the roots...

I'll never look back buddy :toke:
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I think the worms would be a great addition also bob with the no water route and with putting the silicium flash in the medium do you still use the orgatrex on all your girls as seedstocker mark said he used an ml a litre every other watering on his photos
 
St. Tom said:
Should I ph this plain water then as my tap water is quite high as biotabs say not to bother also thanks to you and @Bob's Auto's for all the help and I recon she hopefully will be back on track soon I'm used to coco and getting a quick fix
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If you're going to PH, use lemon juice or citric acid - the nitric acid and phosphoric acid will kill the microherd, but the lemony goodness won't.

Organic pH down! :vibe:
 
blue said:
If you're going to PH, use lemon juice or citric acid - the nitric acid and phosphoric acid will kill the microherd, but the lemony goodness won't.

Organic pH down! :vibe:
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I didn't know that blue great tip my friend
 
St. Tom said:
I think the worms would be a great addition also bob with the no water route and with putting the silicium flash in the medium do you still use the orgatrex on all your girls as seedstocker mark said he used an ml a litre every other watering on his photos
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Every time I water with Bactrex, I always add Orgatrex to it. Always ;)
Also when I'm brewing my tea, I add an amount of Orgatrex for the same reason. :thumbsup:

blue said:
If you're going to PH, use lemon juice or citric acid - the nitric acid and phosphoric acid will kill the microherd, but the lemony goodness won't.

Organic pH down! :vibe:
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I'm agreeing on the nitric and phosphoric acid, but lemon juice isn't that stable to begin with. You'll soon notice a drift as soon as the lemon juice starts to oxidize. It's technically better to lower the pH with Sulphuric acid. This keeps the pH stable for a longer time. And, you won't need as much to change the pH... :bow:
 
Bob's Auto's said:
Every time I water with Bactrex, I always add Orgatrex to it. Always ;)
Also when I'm brewing my tea, I add an amount of Orgatrex for the same reason. :thumbsup:


I'm agreeing on the nitric and phosphoric acid, but lemon juice isn't that stable to begin with. You'll soon notice a drift as soon as the lemon juice starts to oxidize. It's technically better to lower the pH with Sulphuric acid. This keeps the pH stable for a longer time. And, you won't need as much to change the pH... :bow:
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I agree on the stability of Citric (lemon) acid and it needs to be more closely monitored, but when i've looked into sulphuric (again today) it seems a bit risky .. not only for the mirco herd, but also very strong (battery acid right??)

I'm not a scientist, but it's an inorganic acid, and it's not generally availbale in grow shops.
It's used at an agricultural level though. :shrug:
 
blue said:
I agree on the stability of Citric (lemon) acid and it needs to be more closely monitored, but when i've looked into sulphuric (again today) it seems a bit risky .. not only for the mirco herd, but also very strong (battery acid right??)

I'm not a scientist, but it's an inorganic acid, and it's not generally availbale in grow shops.
It's used at an agricultural level though. :shrug:
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Bob's Auto's said:
Every time I water with Bactrex, I always add Orgatrex to it. Always ;)
Also when I'm brewing my tea, I add an amount of Orgatrex for the same reason. :thumbsup:


I'm agreeing on the nitric and phosphoric acid, but lemon juice isn't that stable to begin with. You'll soon notice a drift as soon as the lemon juice starts to oxidize. It's technically better to lower the pH with Sulphuric acid. This keeps the pH stable for a longer time. And, you won't need as much to change the pH... :bow:
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I use citric acid crystals for pH down duuuuuuuuuudes...always have and they helps withs the C-C-C-Chlorine ins the waterz.....me thinkssshamonaH.
 
Vapo said:
I use citric acid crystals for pH down duuuuuuuuuudes...always have and they helps withs the C-C-C-Chlorine ins the waterz.....me thinkssshamonaH.
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We're do you buy that and can you link me to it maybe also I'm going to just use what I've got for the time being also @Bob's Auto's ya know on the biotabs normal guide we're it says add the 20ml 1 time at week 5 we shouldn't need that with the silicium flash I'm just making 100 pcent sure
 
blue said:
I agree on the stability of Citric (lemon) acid and it needs to be more closely monitored, but when i've looked into sulphuric (again today) it seems a bit risky .. not only for the mirco herd, but also very strong (battery acid right??)

I'm not a scientist, but it's an inorganic acid, and it's not generally availbale in grow shops.
It's used at an agricultural level though. :shrug:
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Yup, Sulphuric acid is a very corrosive in it's 'pure' form, but one only needs a couple of drops to lower the pH a whole point in about 20L of water. And it's very gentle to the soil life, on the condition that the pH of the water you are using is around 6.5. The bacteria love the sulfur as it's directly available for them to use.
Sulphuric acid is actually very common in hydro culture and can be bought in growshops and swimmingpool shops alike under the name PH-o-Min.


Vapo said:
I use citric acid crystals for pH down duuuuuuuuuudes...always have and they helps withs the C-C-C-Chlorine ins the waterz.....me thinkssshamonaH.
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Acid crystals are a step up from lemon juice, that's for sure. But still there's the stability issue. If you need to keep the water for longer periods of time at a certain pH you constantly have to add more to it.

St. Tom said:
We're do you buy that and can you link me to it maybe also I'm going to just use what I've got for the time being also @Bob's Auto's ya know on the biotabs normal guide we're it says add the 20ml 1 time at week 5 we shouldn't need that with the silicium flash I'm just making 100 pcent sure
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Citric acid can be bought in a brewshop or healthstore.
I assume you are talking about the Orgatrex right? Yup, I still use it. In the first weeks every time I give Bactrex (every other watering), I add 5ml/1gr of Bactrex to the water. I continue to do that until I start with my PK Booster tea. To make that I mix 15gr of the tea with 5ml Orgatrex per liter of dechlorinated water. Then turn on the air pump and of it goes for 36 hours in a warm spot.
 
Hello folks today we have flipped the 4x4 photos onto 12/12 so today is day 1 of flower I also still have the problem girl off the res drying her pot again this time more thoroughly but I'm hoping this really gets her out of her funk so I'm going to giving her small feeds with orgatrex .also as you can see my sanlights make my girls look a lot more pale than they are .here are my trichomes andcreams from dutch passion @Antonio_DutchPassion and these 2 girls are looking splendid with the same routine I'm doing with the photos up to now and there all 37 days old today .also another big thanks for all the help folks

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