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January 23 update

Here they are on January 23.

First, the Seedsman Auto Northern lights in her personal 2x2 at Day 71:
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She seems to be doing reasonably well, and the pistils are just now starting to darken slightly. She auto'ed ok, but she is going to be quite a few weeks yet. Should be productive if I can keep her growing.

Next the other three girls in the main 2x4:
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The Dinamed Auto CBD Kush at Day 56:
Dinamed CBD Kush.jpg

She is progressing reasonably, and the two lower branches that I dusted with pollen are showing browning pistils finally, so perhaps she will produce seeds as well as some CBD bud.

The Mephisto Auto CDLCx3Bog at Day 77:
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This poor girl is the second saddest girl I have grown. Still not sure what happened, but it seems that it is not fixable. Nothing I tried made a bit of difference once she started downhill. Either the problem was not nutes in the first place, or I was so far out of line that damage was already extensive. Looks like I'll get some bud anyway.

The Seedsman Auto Strawberry Cheesecake at Day 77:
Seedsman Strawberry Cheesecake.jpg

And this sad looking mess is my worst girl yet. It looks like I will get some bud, but not pretty is an understatement. She went down at the same time as the CDLC cross, only worse and quicker. Again, no idea what the problem was. I will be checking roots once she is chopped.

Speaking of bud, here is a bit of porn I took to check trichomes on the Strawberry Cheesecake:
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Bottom line is that she is getting closer, but not there yet. I want to see some amber. Should not be long now. Yeah, I know about the hair. :biggrin:

Happy growing peeps. :pighug:
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olegren
Looks like you might very well have sorted it out. Watching close and rooting for the crop!
 
Olderfart
olegren said:
Looks like you might very well have sorted it out. Watching close and rooting for the crop!
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Thank you kindly. If both of us keep thinking good thoughts...

I took the two problem plants out today and removed a bag of dead fans and probable larf. The thinking being that I don't have a lot of producticve fans left, so more light penetration and less energy diverted to larf might be good.

At any rate, the decision was made, so we shall see. Thanks for checking in @olegren, and good luck with your grow. :pighug:
 
The Iconoclast
FWIW, After trying all the different types of recommended germination methods none with 100%, and some where I simply damaged the seedling while transferring it, I have finally settled on a method, that sort of had me laughing to myself because it is as simple as it can possibly get. I did a lot of thinking about why people soak, and why they put it between wet tissue and so forth and my reasoning told me that perhaps I should just put an unsoaked dry seed directly into an Eazy Plug. About 2mm below the surface and cover the hole with a tiny bit of the plug torn off from a corner. Sprouts in 3 to 4 days, like clockwork.

Welp, ever since it's been a 100% success rate and I can't see any point in making it more complex. That's what I've come to anyway. My thinking was that since the Eazy Plug after it's been allowed to soak up some water, remains the perfect environment, it doesn't dry out nor can it drown the seed. And the Eazy Plug protects the new root while it establishes itself.
 
JohnEMad
Glad you have things turned around @Olderfart . I was surprised to see EC @600 to 700 for flowering autos. Just seemed way low to me for all my auto grows as i was usually around 1200 to 1400 with a bit of leave tip burn.
 
Olderfart
The Iconoclast said:
FWIW, After trying all the different types of recommended germination methods none with 100%, and some where I simply damaged the seedling while transferring it, I have finally settled on a method, that sort of had me laughing to myself because it is as simple as it can possibly get. I did a lot of thinking about why people soak, and why they put it between wet tissue and so forth and my reasoning told me that perhaps I should just put an unsoaked dry seed directly into an Eazy Plug. About 2mm below the surface and cover the hole with a tiny bit of the plug torn off from a corner. Sprouts in 3 to 4 days, like clockwork.

Welp, ever since it's been a 100% success rate and I can't see any point in making it more complex. That's what I've come to anyway. My thinking was that since the Eazy Plug after it's been allowed to soak up some water, remains the perfect environment, it doesn't dry out nor can it drown the seed. And the Eazy Plug protects the new root while it establishes itself.
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Pretty much where I am now at, although I still like an initial soak and paper towel time to allow development of the initial tap root, which quickly confirms whether a seed is good.

The only reason that I might choose a transfer cup instead is because it would allow a bit more development before transplant into the final container, and this could be done under a clear cover on my heat mat.

OTOH, it is hard to argue against how the roots on my cbd girl developed. It would be nice to see a serious comparison, but I am not set up to do it, clones and a larger grow space being minimum requirements.

Thanks for chiming in, good to hear that someone else here is thinking along the same lines. :pighug:
 
Olderfart
JohnEMad said:
Glad you have things turned around @Olderfart . I was surprised to see EC @600 to 700 for flowering autos. Just seemed way low to me for all my auto grows as i was usually around 1200 to 1400 with a bit of leave tip burn.
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Yeah, my initial feeds were too low. I am pretty sure that I was starving them for quite a while, and the damage to the two older plants was remarkable. What I think I learned from the experience, aside from the EC levels needed, is that by the time significant symptoms show up, a hell of a lot of damage has already been done, and it will take multiple days after correcting before damage stabilizes. Put another way, reading the plants is a great idea for fine tuning, but major screwups like mine are far more difficult to identify early enough to avoid significant damage.

The reason that I was keeping feed levels down in the first place is that I was concerned that the autopot/fabric pot combo does not allow runoff, and salt buildup is a definite threat. I just went too far with it, and by the time symptoms showed up, a lot of damage had been done. The fact that initial symptoms were so ambiguous did not help either.

Every grow is a learning experience... :biggrin:
 
JohnEMad
Olderfart said:
Yeah, my initial feeds were too low. I am pretty sure that I was starving them for quite a while, and the damage to the two older plants was remarkable. What I think I learned from the experience, aside from the EC levels needed, is that by the time significant symptoms show up, a hell of a lot of damage has already been done, and it will take multiple days after correcting before damage stabilizes. Put another way, reading the plants is a great idea for fine tuning, but major screwups like mine are far more difficult to identify early enough to avoid significant damage.

The reason that I was keeping feed levels down in the first place is that I was concerned that the autopot/fabric pot combo does not allow runoff, and salt buildup is a definite threat. I just went too far with it, and by the time symptoms showed up, a lot of damage had been done. The fact that initial symptoms were so ambiguous did not help either.

Every grow is a learning experience... :biggrin:
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I went through the same thing with some clones I grew a few months ago. Starved them and then they slowly made a decent recovery. Good thing mine were photoperiods and I could let them veg longer.
Onward and upward. :watering:
 
Fitzy
Olderfart said:
Yeah, my initial feeds were too low. I am pretty sure that I was starving them for quite a while, and the damage to the two older plants was remarkable. What I think I learned from the experience, aside from the EC levels needed, is that by the time significant symptoms show up, a hell of a lot of damage has already been done, and it will take multiple days after correcting before damage stabilizes. Put another way, reading the plants is a great idea for fine tuning, but major screwups like mine are far more difficult to identify early enough to avoid significant damage.

The reason that I was keeping feed levels down in the first place is that I was concerned that the autopot/fabric pot combo does not allow runoff, and salt buildup is a definite threat. I just went too far with it, and by the time symptoms showed up, a lot of damage had been done. The fact that initial symptoms were so ambiguous did not help either.

Every grow is a learning experience... :biggrin:
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Bro you said it if your not learning your about to be bit lol great job though on the seeds they look super good and a cbd harvest also. I forget if you said but are you going to extract any to make rso or something? I really love a 1to1 thc/cbd by far wat I prefer and I found mixing a pure cbd strain with normal variety to give me the same effect. I hope to grow some cbd this year outdoors.
 
Olderfart
Fitzy said:
Bro you said it if your not learning your about to be bit lol great job though on the seeds they look super good and a cbd harvest also. I forget if you said but are you going to extract any to make rso or something? I really love a 1to1 thc/cbd by far wat I prefer and I found mixing a pure cbd strain with normal variety to give me the same effect. I hope to grow some cbd this year outdoors.
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Yes, the whole idea of growing the pure cbd strain was to be able to combine with THC strains to play with ratios. I will do this with coconut oil extract for sure so that I can make a salve for my wife who may be able to use it for relief of joint pain, and I may just mix a bit in the grinder to see how it works with other strains in a vaporizer. I might try tincture at some point if I can ever get down to the US to pick up some everclear.

Thanks for checking in Fitzy. :pighug:
 
Olderfart
No worries mate, the blogs work better for the grower's record, but sadly not for the readers. Not sure what I will do for the next one. Maybe both a blog and a grow journal. It wouldn't be a lot of extra effort to throw the basics in a separate grow thread and leave the details to the blog.

Thanks for checking in @Trichome farmer. :pighug:
 
Olderfart
420Forever said:
mmm, my apologiez brotato chip :toke: u actually shoulda made it into the club a long time ago, lol, but hey, i smoke weed & ur name simply got lost in the shuffle that is me brain, so...:coffee: :rolleyes2: welcome to the club! :headbang: ppp
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No worries at all my friend. I just didn't bother with it earlier. Not a big deal for me one way or the other.

Anyway, thanks for the prompt response, and for all your effort helping keep AFN friendly and fun.

Cheers mate! :cheers:
 
Dutch Passion Lemon Z

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Overview Germination results, Seedling progress El Cheapo constant current Colloidal Silver Generator. December 11 update December 19 update, balls and all. My New Year's ladies. January 10 update - both good news and not so good Update on seed run Thoughts on peat plugs January 23 update Feb 4 update, CDLC cross and Strawberry Cheesecake on the home stretch. February 12 update, harvest has begun, more chopping is imminent. Feb 18 update - more chopping, Northern lights moved to 2x4. Seed run completed Final Tally, Grow is completed View full entry

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