Mephisto- Strawberry Nuggets

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Constantly learning....

So without falter, there is always something isn't there lol. So looking at my last pics and just inspecting my ladies, I noticed to see some of this.


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So, I have seen this in the past and it has always been genuinely mild and corrected itself. Just to be cautious of it, I have been raising my lights and other than that leaving everything else the fuck alone. Well after I got them up above 24" and they looked like they did today (the picture above) I was like nope, this is across multiple plants and is not correcting itself.

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So if its not light stress, I'm thinking what has been any different from any of previous grows? I start trying to diagnose, and what I arrived too was below.

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And it wasnt so much the vpd range, as this was due to me making some humidifier changes and the previous 6 days they have been in actual range. It was actually the temperature that caught my eye. So for most of the grow, the temp has been sitting around 81-83 degrees and I have just been pounding it with my humidifier to keep the RH% optimum. But it dawned on me..... in all my past grows, I never let the temp get above 75. So what I believe what we are seeing is heat stress. It's just hitting the leafs closest to light the most as the temp is warmer. So I found a temp solution for the meantime to try to get some colder air into the room. (Below) I just took a air duct to another part of the basement and redirected to blow toward my passive air intake.

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What I am thinking in theory of all this, is if I can keep the temp lower and stay in VPD range, I can get the lights closer. Closer lights = more PPFD = more DLI = more photosynthesis. Maybe I am completely wrong, but I fell like without CO supplement, the key maybe to grow them a bit colder so you can optimize your light.
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Like2Learm
do u just sprout the seeds in those rapid rooters? i wonder how autos would do in a flood and drain table lol
 
Mushinronsha
Like2Learm said:
do u just sprout the seeds in those rapid rooters? i wonder how autos would do in a flood and drain table lol
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Welcome and thank you for the question. I originally did on previous grows, I would place the rapid rooter plugs in the table, drop a seed in and cover them until I saw them sprout. However, while this was the easiest method, it was not the most successful. I almost always had 1 or 2 not pop or get stuck upside down and spend a few days behind. Some of them got water logged over this and just died, so I would end of with a few like a week behind. It kind of sucked.

So my new method is just as easy and have had 100% success with it. I throw the seed's in a wet paper towel and place it between 2 plastic plates in my grow room. 48 hours later they all have nice little tails. I then cut the rooter plugs half way through to the middle lengthwise, place my little tadpole inside, tap root down :mrgreen: . Then place them in the table on a regular flood cycle. Works like a charm!
 
Marklar
High-Dro Mephisto said:
Welcome and thank you for the question. I originally did on previous grows, I would place the rapid rooter plugs in the table, drop a seed in and cover them until I saw them sprout. However, while this was the easiest method, it was not the most successful. I almost always had 1 or 2 not pop or get stuck upside down and spend a few days behind. Some of them got water logged over this and just died, so I would end of with a few like a week behind. It kind of sucked.

So my new method is just as easy and have had 100% success with it. I throw the seed's in a wet paper towel and place it between 2 plastic plates in my grow room. 48 hours later they all have nice little tails. I then cut the rooter plugs half way through to the middle lengthwise, place my little tadpole inside, tap root down :mrgreen: . Then place them in the table on a regular flood cycle. Works like a charm!
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I've seen a lot of people doing the cut up the middle thing lately and I love it. I'm going to try it next chance I get.

I'm curious about your setup. It looks like an aquarium pump or something similar cycling the water through a filter. I'm not very familiar with hydro so forgive me if this should seem obvious.
 
Like2Learm
High-Dro Mephisto said:
Welcome and thank you for the question. I originally did on previous grows, I would place the rapid rooter plugs in the table, drop a seed in and cover them until I saw them sprout. However, while this was the easiest method, it was not the most successful. I almost always had 1 or 2 not pop or get stuck upside down and spend a few days behind. Some of them got water logged over this and just died, so I would end of with a few like a week behind. It kind of sucked.

So my new method is just as easy and have had 100% success with it. I throw the seed's in a wet paper towel and place it between 2 plastic plates in my grow room. 48 hours later they all have nice little tails. I then cut the rooter plugs half way through to the middle lengthwise, place my little tadpole inside, tap root down :mrgreen: . Then place them in the table on a regular flood cycle. Works like a charm!
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ahh interesting im sure this method can be used without any pumps by just daily wetting the bottom of rapid rooter to wick moisture ?
 
Mushinronsha
Like2Learm said:
ahh interesting im sure this method can be used without any pumps by just daily wetting the bottom of rapid rooter to wick moisture ?
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Yea, I don't see any reason why not. That would just be a bottom feed method. One of the main benefits of doing ebb and flow, is how much oxygen you get to the root zone. As it floods, it forces all the old air out and as it drains, it works to provide clean fresh air to the substrate. Using the hydroton is nice because nutrients collect on the groves of the pebbles and provide nutrients when the plant wants them. So they have all the air they want, and can drink whenever they want.
 

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