very weird pollenation reaction for super auto

[hedgeraider]

I put pollen on some branches with water and without, about 4 times. The white hairs only half wither as the pollen climbs up them. Only 10 percent look pollenated. the pollen is between 1 and 10 days old.

i used some pollen that was under 24/24 some days, and i also used some that was under a skylight, and still the plant has almost zero seedpods.

i just checked out 5-10 seed pods and they look abit bigger but the are completely empty, look inside them and it's air.

what is happening to the seeds? is the girl hormonal, she ïs frigid?

 

[Epic Genetics]

I put pollen on some branches with water and without, about 4 times. The white hairs only half wither as the pollen climbs up them. Only 10 percent look pollenated. the pollen is between 1 and 10 days old.

i used some pollen that was under 24/24 some days, and i also used some that was under a skylight, and still the plant has almost zero seedpods.

i just checked out 5-10 seed pods and they look abit bigger but the are completely empty, look inside them and it's air.

what is happening to the seeds? is the girl hormonal, she ïs frigid?

give them time to develope maybe

and never use water as water KILLS pollen , light and heat could have too

peace

 

[hedgeraider]

I checked if there were some seeds coming out, and the dutch passion TD is fine: 10-20 seeds on each branch. The super auto, NS, i can count 0.1 fat seed pods on each branch, 1-2 seeds, and 20 half dead pistils where the pollen didnt even reach the ovary, it stopped half way along the white hair.


I read plenty of guides that said mix pollen with water and apply with paintbrush, it avoids it flying around the room, and i have pollenated plants totally with water pollen, plus you get to pretend you are a stylish artist, dabbing around the water and the buds really fast with expert brush strokes, you have to get just the right amount of water on a fat brush, then dab it reelly fast on all the buds at 200 kph, and then back in the water. its fun try it.


if they have humidity/water for more than a day they die, it depends on level of humidity, otherwise, the pollen just sprouts for an hour or 2. I applied loooads of it dry too just to be sure.
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/content/83/2/167.full.pdf

 

[Epic Genetics]

I checked if there were some seeds coming out, and the dutch passion TD is fine: 10-20 seeds on each branch. The super auto, NS, i can count 0.1 fat seed pods on each branch, 1-2 seeds, and 20 half dead pistils where the pollen didnt even reach the ovary, it stopped half way along the white hair.


I read plenty of guides that said mix pollen with water and apply with paintbrush, it avoids it flying around the room, and i have pollenated plants totally with water pollen, plus you get to pretend you are a stylish artist, dabbing around the water and the buds really fast with expert brush strokes, you have to get just the right amount of water on a fat brush, then dab it reelly fast on all the buds at 200 kph, and then back in the water. its fun try it.


if they have humidity/water for more than a day they die, it depends on level of humidity, otherwise, the pollen just sprouts for an hour or 2. I applied loooads of it dry too just to be sure.
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/content/83/2/167.full.pdf

ill avoid trying it as when i spray my room down with straight water it is wet for less then an hour , a far cry from an entire day and ive never had accidental pollenations from any of the pollen that was sprayed before putting in new plants

if it works for you great (but from your words alone it sounds like somethings arent quite right) , my advice , dont use water

peace

edit , i read some of your link and it seems to be about humidity not actual water , i didnt read to the very end though

 

[hedgeraider]

Oh right Kool!

I took some side by side pics of kush-different and nirvana sky pollinated at the same time, kushy is in different stage of maturation, the seeds are really fat very fast, about half pollinated, and NS... the pics speak for themselves.

i usually have about 100 percent pollination rate after 2-3 applications with water mixed with pollenfor classic auto's. you can't put dry pollen on a branch if there is other sensi in the room.

 

[Epic Genetics]

you can't put dry pollen on a branch if there is other sensi in the room.

dude , thousands of us pollen chuckers do it with great success , turn off any and all fans and have at it

kush-different sounds intriguing , id like to see a thread on that

 

[yodabuds]

Hmm... Defintely don't see water and pollen mixed together working??? I've read several canna books getting thru a couple on breeding and EVERYWHERE I've read says water deactivates pollen... I know a fine mist after I'm done playing with the pollen and no accidental pollination... Where did you ever read such a thing as I'd be VERY CURIOUS to see the source of info.... Would love next time you do it to do a video for us??? Possibly you can teach us something new???
:Sharing One:

 

[InHumboldt]

Water activates pollen. Once activated it needs to find the pistula and enter it soon or it dies. Many of us kill pollen this way-spray the plant with water, dry and return it to the grow room. Yet this insinuates that the run off may be active-I never thought about that before?????

 

[Epic Genetics]

Water activates pollen. Once activated it needs to find the pistula and enter it soon or it dies. Many of us kill pollen this way-spray the plant with water, dry and return it to the grow room. Yet this insinuates that the run off may be active-I never thought about that before?????

where did you read this ?

i always spray down my pollinated plants and ship them from the breeding room to the normal flowering rooms without ever pollinating any of the normal flowering plants, and thats with a ton of air flow in that room, if what you are saying is true i would have had a lot of stray pollen doin its thing

yet i never have

water kills pollen , even trying to breed in high RH causes failed attempts for many and thats just moist air not actual water being mixed with pollen

peace

 

[InHumboldt]

I first heard it from my biology professor-it was in the text book too. Yes even humidity will set it off and it dies real soon.
FYI- pollen lands on the pistula were necter activates it-water alone is enough but necter has sugar and other nutrents.If you activate with suger water ( very weak) then the pollen will live a little longer. A little tube comes out the pollen grain and enters the pistula-no pistula death is very quick. If you have a microscope you may be able to watch the pollen real time activate and the tuble come out and grow-did it years ago in college.
PS I'm having trouble with my super auto showing pollenation and seed formation. It may be that it has been fertilized but the pistula is holding the pollen DNA untill it is time to make seeds. Many plants do this- the seeds all form and ripen at the same time. Note that this the thread starts with pistulas that seems to react and at about 1/3 down the pistula the reaction stops-This jives with my botony education some plants do this lest hope that this is the case. My problem is it may have lead me to over pollenate-a few days to weeks and we will know.