Transplanting with autos

[KIS]

So I'm not an auto grower, but hope to experiment with them someday. I've only ever grown type I plants. That being said, I've heard from multiple growers that you can't transplant autos. Now there are a ton of benefits to transplanting and some disadvantages to putting a tiny plant in a larger container (see my latest podcast with Don Marshall regarding this topic). https://www.kisorganics.com/blogs/p...-the-why-in-how-plants-grow-with-don-marshall

Since you guys have some experience, can you verify this is accurate? From a plant physiology perspective I am having trouble figuring out why this might be true.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Jraven]

I've transplanted autos successfully the regular way, but here's what I usually do now. They can be transplanted with no stress

https://www.autoflower.org/threads/...ictorial-and-root-restriction-stunting.64509/

 

[Arthur]

I start every round in solo cups that get transplanted a couple weeks in. It's not a plant that you can let the roots fill out a small pot and then transplant like you would a photo or other plant. But I don't have issues as long as I don't let them run to long before.

 

[automan2]

You've hung out at other forums too much...lot of myths out there...lota haters too with misleading info...Been transplanting autos from solo cups to final pots for years with no issues. Timing is key.

 

[bf80255]

yeah you can transplant them its just not ideal because if you mess up you can stunt the plant and unlike photos you cant just veg a little longer to cover your mistake because the plants lifetime is finite and fixed.

basically they just dont have time to recover properly and over the course of the plants life that tiny disturbance can ripple into big effects down the line....

kinda like the rice on a chessboard riddle.
If a chessboard were to have rice placed upon each square such that one grain were placed on the first square, two on the second, four on the third, and so on (doubling the number of grains on each subsequent square)

18,446,744,073,709,551,615 grains of rice

so starting in the final pot is best but not the be all end all.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Yeah Im with Chuckles Been hanging out in other places me thinks. LOL for years now thats been prove it can be done. and done alright if done early enough,properly and carefully. Yet the work involved just doesnt seem worth it being a broken person for me anywho.solo cup(Tier Planting) starts seem the best fit or main pot starts. The only benefit to a small plant,or small Auto in this case.is that the foods will feed for example a Black Stone or similar potentially long running strains to stable platform for them to ripen and perform for long distances lol Thats my 2 1/4 cents

 

[KIS]

That makes more sense to me. Has anyone experimented with biodegradable pots like Fertil Pots?

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I could see autos being sensitive to transplant, I know pumpkins are the same way. The benefits of transplanting though are numerous for watering, managing light square footage, controlling above and below ground growth, etc....

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Ideally I would not transplant autos. It is not that you cannot do it you can. Like what has been said before timing is everything. I use GroDan's starting system. 1.5 inch A-ok starting cubes that are put in Hugo 6" cubes. It is easy to see when the roots are ready to be transplanted. This one was probably ready a day or two before I got to it.

 

[bf80255]

That makes more sense to me. Has anyone experimented with biodegradable pots like Fertil Pots?

Fertil Wood Fiber Biodegradable Pots | Fertilpot Fiber Pots

Fertilpots are biodegradable pots made from wood fiber and are manufactured without the use of glues. Fertilpot is OMRI listed and USDA Bio preferred.

www.fertil.us

I could see autos being sensitive to transplant, I know pumpkins are the same way. The benefits of transplanting though are numerous for watering, managing light square footage, controlling above and below ground growth, etc....

yea there kinda hit and miss sometimes the roots get sort of bound before they can bust through and... yeah stunting ime

 

[Olderfart]

As others here do, I always transplant, and have not seen an issue. I have tried several approaches, all worked, but now I am settling into using insta-transplant pots/cups which allow me to place the plant into a shaped hole before lifting the sides of the split pot to leave the plant in place. I am still working on size, degree of ventilation etc., but the basic approach seems to allow the advantages of managing small pots first, with minimum stress of transplanting later. I have found that the conventional method of removing the plant and root wad by upending the pot before placing it in the new pot to be dangerous because my plants rarely if ever grow dense enough roots to hold the medium together by the time I want to transplant. Too often, trying to remove the rooted plant from the pot results in the medium falling apart, potentially buggering the root structure and setting the plant back. By using the insta-transplant approach, collapse of the medium and consequent root damage is avoided consistently.

At any rate, the notion that autos can't be transplanted is bs. They can, and with many growers, and more than a few methods, usually are. The keys in my opinion are to get timing right, and do the job without root damage. Also important and not often mentioned is that the new pot needs to have the same pH/osmotic environment as the initial pot - you do not want to shock the young plant by suddenly subjecting it to a large shift in EC or pH. Leave your adjustments of nutes until after the transplanted youngster settles in for a few days, and adjust slowly.

All just my two cents of course...

Happy transplanting peeps.