New Grower The "Why are My plants so small" experiment

[Blewitt]

As some might know I have been struggling with small/miniature plants of no bigger than 20cm in height.

I have grown only 4 auto plants so far, from them I have managed to get some seeds with CS. Unfortunately ( or fortunately) when I was harvesting seeds about 6 days ago, I noticed many of the seeds are sprouting while still in the mother plant. This has now given me the chance to plant all these germinating seeds in different "environments" and figure out what is the problem here (get them bigger than 20 cm). My main suspicion for my stunted plants are compacted soils but there is a possibility of a ph problem as well although plant leaves are very healthy and green and show no other signs of stress besides small size.

Most Seeds are a cross between Blue Cush x Onyx
I am also busy soaking a Sweet Chees x Onyx

Some seeds have been planted in the vegetable garden, in raised beds, amended with horse manure and straw. Very very fast draining, well aerated sandy soil. I grow great veg there, hoping my herb also loves it!

Some in pots of of soil and composted horse manure. Smaller pots used this time with better drainage and more airy soils. Pots have different ratios of manure and soil as part of the experiment.

I will also be using chicken manure as fertilizer this time, last time was mostly horse manure compost teas during "veg" and monopotassium phosphate during flowering.

Below pictures of the Blue Cush hybrids at about 3 days since sprouting through the soil, 6 days since I noticed the seeds germinating.



In pot:

In garden soil:

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

i was growing for nearly a year lil 20cm things,something clicked i dont know what and growing got better.heavy soil was one of my issues.
good luck n keep er lit.

 

[Time]

As much as I'd like to, I can't grow outside in my horse turds so I'll live vicariously through your grow, if you don't mind.

 

[Blewitt]

Update: at around 11 days

We have had some temperature extremes, extremely hot on the day of starting this thread and ever since quite a cold snap, lots of cloudy weather. Consequently plants have been slow.

Also lost quite a number of seedlings to insects that completely devoured the little things.

I have only got 1 plant left over in the pots, in the garden I have got 3 left.

Will be planting a few more over the coming days to make up for the losses.

So far no difference in growing size/behavior noted.

In Garden bed:

Pot plant:

 

[hugrem]

Try coco m'y friend, could never grow anything in soil , 14g plant was m'y best yield , now only.by using coco.coir im.getting 2oz minimum per auto , coco is the best , and easiest way to Grow Fast and healty plant in m'y opinion.

 

[Blewitt]

Try coco m'y friend, could never grow anything in soil , 14g plant was m'y best yield , now only.by using coco.coir im.getting 2oz minimum per auto , coco is the best , and easiest way to Grow Fast and healty plant in m'y opinion.

Thank you, I will try that for sure. I have been looking into it but unfortunately I live in an extremely rural area and it is hard to get even basics like coco here. I need to work with the materials and soils I already have available/can easily obtain. This is limited to different kinds of manures (livestock and poultry) and agricultural wastes like straw.

I can go get the coco coir in the city but I cannot go get some all the time, so its not a ideal for my situation. Perhaps if I can source it in bulk.

 

[hugrem]

Thank you, I will try that for sure. I have been looking into it but unfortunately I live in an extremely rural area and it is hard to get even basics like coco here. I need to work with the materials and soils I already have available/can easily obtain. This is limited to different kinds of manures (livestock and poultry) and agricultural wastes like straw.

I can go get the coco coir in the city but I cannot go get some all the time, so its not a ideal for my situation. Perhaps if I can source it in bulk.

I cant find coco in here in Canada, but you can order canna coco brick on Ebay , 40L 20$ , and what is magic about coco is you can reuse it for a few Grow , all I Do is remove most of the Roots, flush the coco , and back in the pot

 

[Blewitt]

Looks like these are a bust as well, all plants in all the different kinds of soils, pots and micro climates are still very small even though they all appear to be very healthy. Growth is slow.

I have got 1 that is already showing pre-flowers at day 18. Still unsure as to what I am doing wrong with autos.

My photoperiods are literally freaking out on me and growning so large that I am having like real problems trying to keep them hidden. Autoflowers maxing out at about 20cm.

 

[dankstyle J]

When using chicken poop always let it cook it can fry plants with its heavy n content .If using it I would suggest usin very lil or putting some in a little soil to cut it an let it decompose for a couple months .I get big plants with big pots but also drainage has a lot to do with it .Cannabis likes fast drying medium good drainage an good air flow aid in growth an are very important .Nice plants an I honestly have never heard of a seed germinating in the mom how cool .