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Wazzzzup AFN !!

I'd like to catalog all the things I learnt about using coco. Actually, the things I learnt by making terrible mistakes. Some are obvious to the more experienced folk, others no so much to a novice info searching young grower.

First mistake... information overload. I thought I was smart enough to dive deep into it.... the more I read, the more doubts I had, the more I thought I knew sh!t, the closer I got to killing my plants! :twist:

Coco is as simple as it could be! Basically hydroponics, but without all the bells and whistles (ergo, pumps, recircs, timers, etc etc)

Please do learn from other's mistake, but DO NOT fear making mistakes. Just don't be a hero.

Lets get to it !!

- Don't read too much if you're new to growing! Use the BASIC nute line, reduce 50% on whatever the label says, and work slowly up. In the meantime, make a diary, engage, read... but don´t go all cowboy hero thinking you've got it figured. On your second run, if the first went well, then yes! Experiment!! Explore!! Increase your yields!

- Coco is virtually hydroponics. Invest all your efforts in the best pH and EC meter, calibration buffers and a proper cleaning/calibration schedule - pH can be a bitch at first. Here are some pointers. Let the probe in the liquid you want to measure 2 to 10 minutes BEFORE making the reading.
The probe has to compensate for temperature, and only then will it give a good reading. For example, mid summer the probe could be 28ºC ambient temp, but the water around 19ºC, the probe will initially think its 25-28ºC and give you wrong readings! (the exact same opposite mid-winter) - let it sit for a little while and then turn it on. Never ever be in a hurry. Shake the probe a little in the liquid, and let it sit. It works by averaging, so initially it could go fast, like

7.18 ... 6.98.... 6.54.....6.42.......6.38.....6.32.....6.32......6.32 SHAKE IT ..... 6.30....6.28.... 6.20.....6.19.... 6.20....6.19.... 6.20.... (this was first 3 minutes) SHAKE ....6.19 .....6.17....6.15....6.14.....6.13... and 20 minutes later its finally stabilizes at, for example 5.8

- NEVER wash commercial grade coco, like Canna, Biobizz etc. I made that mistake and almost KILLED my seedlings. These guys wash, pre-buffer and treat with trichoderma mould (among others). This coco is NOT inert. This was usual advice for coco blocks that need to exapanded in water and are, in fact, inert and dirty. Hence the wash and the pH buffering. With Canna Coco and Biobizz you MUST NEVER do that!

- Before potting to coco, feed the coco 24h before with a light 0.6 to 0.8 EC feed. This will activate micro life and your roots will love it!

- Algae also loves coco. It is natural to get green top layer. That is a clear sign of overwatering. Overwatering is very hard to achieve in coco, but at the same time easy if... well... if you keep on watering. Dont worry, that algae is not harmful. This "it is impossible to overweater coco" is usually refered to in automatic feeding systems, drips etc. Get it wrong and coco is VERY permissive. Easy to adjust, easy to calibrate. But when hand watering, if you dont know coco you will think " geez, I haven't watered for 2 days, I MUST water".

No, you dont! You need to let the top layer dry our considerably! Feel the weight of the pot. Let it dry, roots love it. Look at the plant, is it wilting? No? Dont water! Overwatering will also lock out nutes, making you think you have a pH/deficiency problem, and start compensating giving extras and all hell breaks loose...

- Bugs!! Fungus gnats love coco. Top layer of (well washed, preferably boiled) sand helps prevent it. Whiteflies are also very very common. Although not harmful, extremely annoying!! arrrg!! :amazon: Learn to distinguish the two, not difficult.

- Bugs part 2. Springtails!! Google them. 95% are extremely... let me say that again... extremely beneficial to roots. 5% will kill your plants. Dont panic if you see tiny little <1mm little white crawlies that jump around when you water or scrape the coco. I'll make a video soon...

- You can re-use coco. It is actually better the 2nd and 3rd run. Heavily feed used coco with the old roots with enzymes (Canna Cannazym or Sensizym) and 24-48h later dead roots and pant matter will dissolve. Just be sure to remove the bigger chunks outs before.

Thinks it is all for now, if I remember anything else I'll be sure to post.

:toke:
 
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Loving the coco info. I'm inspired again. :slap:
 
Ahh... remembered another one.

When you order pH Down, buy nitric acid based preferably over phosphoric. Coco has a very very high content (better put, healthy output) of P (as in NPK). That, especially in conjunction to the mid flower PK boost, is the cause of the foxtails one see's more often in coco buds. While more potency can be achieved, generally buds will look freaky and weird to the more connoisseur toker. Nothing wrong with it though, but be triple weary of a very good flush period before harvest, or buds will burn a bit grey and taste harsher.

Dont stress too about it though. I'm still 1/2 way away from finishing my Phosporic base pH Down myself. Its good info though if you want to really push your plants without inandvertedly overloading them.

:bong:
 
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Nice thread. I will be starting a nearly pure coco run soon. My last run was probably 70% coco, but it was the crappy brick coco but turned out great. I now have a new bag of Cyco buffered coco goodness. Oh, and I love my springtails. I look for them every watering. :thumbs:
 
I'm new grower and i grow in hempy buckets , glad i ran into this thread ,but what i cant understand is the benefits of using coco at all ,does it make the bud taste better ,please help me understand
 
I'm new grower and i grow in hempy buckets , glad i ran into this thread ,but what i cant understand is the benefits of using coco at all ,does it make the bud taste better ,please help me understand

I have wondering the same thing, dude.
 
My experience is only with coco so I can't compare to other mediums. But the benefits are; very hard to drown the seedling, no bug eggs waiting to pop up and eat the leaves, root development is fast. And if in hempy it is easy to keep coco dry enough, so that there's enough oxygen among the roots, by feeding through hempy hole.
 
Great info, I'm just about to start a grow with coco (my 1st ever grow) and il be sure to listen to this advice
 
Wazzzzup AFN !!



First mistake... information overload. I thought I was smart enough to dive deep into it.... the more I read, the more doubts I had, the more I thought I knew sh!t, the closer I got to killing my plants! :twist:


- Don't read too much if you're new to growing!
:toke:

LoL I did just that, I'm in 3rd4th day of seedling stage , waiting for some essentials to come in the mail. Hopefully I will get lucky and not need a EC meter for a week.
 
No worries mate! The more mistake you make the quicker you learn, the faster you make up for it, the more bud you get.

So just take it lightly and n the end its a win-win situation :smokebuds:
 
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