Photo to auto with low Ryder question

[yodabuds]

I'm sure if I search I'd find my answer but I am stoned and feeling a bit lazy, so excuse if this has already been asked and answered... And to the person I pm'ed sorry to bother ya was just looking for a quick answer....
If I take a photo plant and breed to a low Ryder I will have PhotoxLR if I than take the PhotoxLR and breed it back to either its original photo or to another photo of same strain and than just keep growing those out for several generations will the auto trait eventually make it self present?
I'd think by making an auto this way it would be a more potent auto in the long run...???
Thank You!

 

[DANK]

I'm no expert on this, but here's my thoughts:
The autoflowering genes are less dominant, so if you crossed an auto with a photo, the result would be an early photo.
If you kept crossing the Photo x LR it would just become more and more similar to the original photo.
The autoflowering trait wouldn't pop up again randomly because its not a phenotype, its a genotype.

Thats probably just a load of shit, I'd love to hear from an auto breeder how it actually works.
But I'm sure that if it was that easy, everyone would be doing it stylez rasta smoke

 

[Zygote]

To keep it simple. Using Mendelian,s square
I will call auto-flowering aa, and AA are non-auto.


P1 are AA and aa cross; AA x aa = Aa

F1 are all Aa; Aa x Aa = AA:Aa:aa 1:2:1
F2 are AA, Aa, aa (note; AA are non-auto's)
You are trying to cross the aa with aa (aa x aa = aa)
You cannot tell the AA from the Aa.
Cross an Aa x Aa you get AA Aa aa 1:2:1
Cross an AA x Aa you get AA and Aa 3:1
Cross an aa x aa you get all aa

 

[Bazooka Joe]

seriously...any layman's terms on that one Zygote Holy Moly

 

[Zygote]

I first posted this On 10-21-2008, "Breeding Map For Auto~Flowering (Day-Neutral)"

I was asked to do a write up on how I breed for auto-flowering (Day-Neutral).
I thought it would be a lot simpler to understand, if I made a breeding Map.

The map is not perfect, but is does get idea a cross.
Hope it is put to good use. :check:


They say a picture is worth a 1000 words.
THEN
A breeding Map is worth 5000 words!
Even if it looks like it was drawled by a 6 year old. WTF is that


NOTE; I call non-auto recessive in the map. This is wrong! I did this to make it easier to understand.

In real life :
non-auto's are dominate
auto's are recessive

It does not mater what you call it dominate OR recessive the map works both way!

 

[Bazooka Joe]

I probably know you, you nick the ponies too I'd bet.:howdy:
Since I have genuine questions I am going to study your post ..BEFORE..ASKING.

THANKS for the in depth tutorial and graph work.
~:')BJ

 

[Zygote]

seriously...any layman's terms on that one Zygote Holy Moly

You must have been sick and missed that day at high school when the teacher when over Mendelian Punnett square, now you got to do a makeup test on Basic Genetics and a 1000 word assay on why auto rock. lol

A short primer on basic genetics including mitosis, meiosis, and how to use Punnett squares to determine the genotypic and phenotypic ratios of dominant, recessive, and x-linked genetic crosses.

[video=youtube;ra46BHYwjHs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra46BHYwjHs[/video]

[video=youtube;D7DJ59VWnoQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7DJ59VWnoQ[/video]

[video=youtube;Jmw38B-gbTM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmw38B-gbTM[/video]

 

[Nam80232]

I wonder why no one has done a Acapulco gold auto? Yoda?

 

[mooons]

Or swiss miss, bluedream, and all the old school hits.. (Ik blue dream isnt that old..)

 

[yodabuds]

I'm toying right now with possibly doing a raskal
White urkle x to maybe a og Kush x Kvs, than take the urkle x Kush to a purple chem, than take the urkle x kvs x purple Chem babies to a
Lowryder than work that out by looking for the ones that show auto trait.... Go from there.....just a idea I'm toying with got so many options,
In no rush, more interested currently growing out all the strains I've brought and find the ones I REALLY REALLY like than I will use one of those finds... So nothing serious at the moment... Got big dreams here goal
Is to start my own seed company it would be called Pay It Forward Seeds. The idea behind the whole seed co. Would be NONE of the seeds would cost NOTHING! To be able to do anything of the such though I would have to find a seed bank to team up with.. The idea would be that when you place an order with the seed bank and either mention your a med patient or would like to pay it forward... (Would be based on the system of good faith and karma)
That you would do one nice random act of kindness... There would be no way to verify of the person would comply, but like I said its based on good faith. The strains would be mixed packs at first, all female beans (mystery ones at first, three generations of random crosses mishmashes together, all so far have produces interesting phenos that have all been good)... This would be autos for the moment and than eventually autos and photos... I believe med patient should have some extra beans for first grow to use to dial in there growing skills before popping beans they paid good money for../ also they would be getting quality genetics with great hybrid vigor... As the years progressed and I worked seriously on making my own auto (as I know that is NOT A SIMPLE
undertaking at all) than I could also offer that as a freebie.
What do you guys think of that idea? It would be. Win/win for all the Seed bank(maybe gen more sales, and the consumer) that I thought would be the only SAFE AND LOGICAl way to
Share my "projects" with all I have a helluva a collection and a helluva of a lot of ambition, I want all of mankind to be able to have access to a medication that the pharma co are terrified of because it would hurt there bottom line.

@zygote slap for the quick review of the genetics I was so high and even not being High I had to still had to do squares on paper before I understood it..: its been MANY MANY years since taking bio.

Take it easy
Yoda

"Got to dream it, to be it)