Photo-Period Auto Cross, need some pointers

[Morbid Angel]

Hello.

I am looking to make a certain "pure" landrace that I love into an auto.

I plan on crossing it with the original Lowryder#1 from Joint Doctor, and breeding it until I get the auto trait with the obvious photo period traits I am looking for.

I read that to do so you have to take a favourite photo female and impregnate her with the strongest & best of the AF males (is this right?).

going into F1's, which should be photo. 12/12 them to seed and select.

grow them out into F2's and so on till F5 or so, or when ever the traits Im looking for become consistent (is this right?), and then solidify and stabilize?

What if I where to cross the best male photo with a female AF? Is it still the same or is there a reason that photo fems are pollenated with AF males?

What if I cross a photo female and AF male F-series with a AF female and photo male F series??


I am starting from as pure lineage as I can, I don't want no seed makers fancy named, un stable chaff, fucking up my pheno's.


Any tips or even the preferred gene mapping / breeding for auto route would be appreciated, I know you guys are pretty keen on your auto's, and they are definitely a lot farther along and more formidable today because of true breeders dedicated efforts! I just want to make some quality, not looking for hype or resale.

Thanks in advance guys.

~ Morbid fucking Angel

 

[GoAuto6]

This would show your f2S AxP X AxP the small being the Auto flower gene.

I believe the male genes are dominate, so the auto gene will be dominate by donating to the non dominate gene..

Green being the Auto gene




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[pop22]

Lowryder#1 I think has been discontinued with the release of Lowryder#2

 

[GoAuto6]

Lowryder#1 I think has been discontinued with the release of Lowryder#2

From what I understand it was because it got to far Away from where it started and #2 is back to where #1 started....If that makes any sense?:Sharing One:

 

[Morbid Angel]

No I have LR#1. It is still out there. I believe the original is still kept as seed from Joint Doctor.

 

[Morbid Angel]

Lowryder#1 I think has been discontinued with the release of Lowryder#2

Lowryder #2 is not a good choice for breeders from what I understand it is too unstable. Too many pheno's to weed through. I don't see why anyone would want to use that as a starting point unless it was for a cross with another hybrid auto.

LR#1 is still at large.

 

[Morbid Angel]

Thanks for the input GoAuto6. I am looking for some kind of proven method for making auto's from photo's maybe some breeders on here do that and can give me a lowdown on the how to to help make life a bit easier on me. Lookin at this:

Im still al little confused at what is happening at F2/F3 and how/why is it separating into to groups and then mating again at F6 for a P1

 

[GoAuto6]

really what it comes down to is doing the work and keeping notes, I'm working 2 different Photo to auto crosses Using Karma Dragon tho.................Next month I will start a thread in here to tack the Progress of the (karma Dragon auto) to a (female Maddnes photo) I had to take a break get me smoke stock back up, But will restart with my F1 auto/photo beans. The one thing I guess is at first you want to read and ask and study but at some point it comes down to trial and error......I would keep a good solid journal here and peeps in the know will be here to help out as you go along..

 

[Morbid Angel]

I just want to create a "strain" that is as pure as possible. Something that the SS would have made if thats what they where into (no Im not, so don't get all butt hurt). Lowryder#1 was the first auto hybrid, therefore it is the most suitable for my breeding without resorting to some really really shitty pure ruderallis.
The photo land race I cross it with will be as pure as can be hoped for without personal intercontinental travel and hand picking seeds from locals in the East.

The photo strain is from the Real Seed Company, an older variety that is no longer displayed on their page. But pure as pure can be as they took it directly from the plants in that middle east country. I won't say what variety though until I start the project cause I don't want no copy cats steal in my ideas! ;P

Hopefully by breeding the two pretty primitive varieties will keep the pheno's to a minimum and will aid in making this easier and better.

Im still al little confused at what is happening at F2/F3 and how/why is it separating into to groups and then mating again at F6 for a P1

 

[Morbid Angel]

fuck i guess its time to buy some books cause I'm fuckin doin this