Overwatering in coco

[Odissey]

Hello everyone,

I currently have a FastBuds Bluedreamatic in pure coco and even though everyone seems to agree coco is difficult to overwater, its drooping everytime I water it. Last grow I used the same medium and I was treating it like hydro (watering 1-2 times a day to runoff) and eveything went exceptionally well. This time however, I was not watering to run off in the beggining but as soon as it showed signs of burnt tips I decided to flush to get rid of salt accumulation. Since then, it has been always drooping and I do not know whether to water or not. For instance, I waited 2 days without watering and this morning the top was mostly dry and the leaves were drooping like underwatered so I decided to water. Now the leaves are drooping even more! Here is the photo

On the left is a Nother Chesse Haze by Mephisto that seems to be always overwatered, even when the coco is super dry...
More info: auto Cob 3500k, tap water with advanced nutrients ph perfect coco A&B+vodoo juice+cannazym+overdrive.

Can anyone give me an insight to what I should do?

Thanks!

 

[St. Tom]

Hi my friend when you flushed her did you test your run off ph and ec as from now I would be looking at meassuring your food ec and ph then doing the same with your run off as it's so important to feed to run off and that will show if she has a lockout or not

 

[St. Tom]

As they look very hungry to me growbro

 

[Odissey]

Hi my friend when you flushed her did you test your run off ph and ec as from now I would be looking at meassuring your food ec and ph then doing the same with your run off as it's so important to feed to run off and that will show if she has a lockout or not

Thanks for the reply St. Tom! Well I have not been measuring ph because I am relying on the ph perfect. Could a lockout cause the overwatered look? My ph pen is not very reliable (if it works at all anymore) which is why I went with this approach, and my tds meter also broke recently. Oh, one thing I forgot to mention is that I flushed with low nute concentration and then gave a final 0.5 ml with regular strength. Could it be that the medium lacks enough nutrients? Should I up the dose?

 

[thebombhaha]

Thanks for the reply St. Tom! Well I have not been measuring ph because I am relying on the ph perfect. Could a lockout cause the overwatered look? My ph pen is not very reliable (if it works at all anymore) which is why I went with this approach, and my tds meter also broke recently. Oh, one thing I forgot to mention is that I flushed with low nute concentration and then gave a final 0.5 ml with regular strength. Could it be that the medium lacks enough nutrients? Should I up the dose?

Yeah if you're doing low nute concentration definitely up the dose at this point. I don't know if you should have even flushed but like @St. Tom said they look hungry bro. Some of my autos were drooping as well, but I was dosing improperly for the week I was in. Getting dialed into a new nute line is something I had to get used to. I had to figure out weighing amounts and whatnot so I asked for help on this. I previously used liquid nutes so this was a nonissue.

 

[St. Tom]

Thanks for the reply St. Tom! Well I have not been measuring ph because I am relying on the ph perfect. Could a lockout cause the overwatered look? My ph pen is not very reliable (if it works at all anymore) which is why I went with this approach, and my tds meter also broke recently. Oh, one thing I forgot to mention is that I flushed with low nute concentration and then gave a final 0.5 ml with regular strength. Could it be that the medium lacks enough nutrients? Should I up the dose?

i can't really tell without the ec from your runoff and your starting feed but she does look hungry also have you fed her any calmag since you planted her

 

[St. Tom]

also, i say this to everyone if want to grow successful weed you need a ph meter but you may be ok with ph perfect but the ec one is so essential and without one i would now build your feed back up gradually now and feed to run off especially with no ec wand or pen and you can get by like that but the feed to runoff is so so important

 

[thebombhaha]

also, i say this to everyone if want to grow successful weed you need a ph meter but you may be ok with ph perfect but the ec one is so essential and without one i would now build your feed back up gradually now and feed to run off especially with no ec wand or pen and you can get by like that but the feed to runoff is so so important

I use a pH droplet testing kit. My meters I bought on eBay never calibrated. I was told about a Bluelab Trucheon pen for ppm testing. What do you think about that, because I've never been able to test ppm before.

 

[St. Tom]

I use a pH droplet testing kit. My meters I bought on eBay never calibrated. I was told about a Bluelab Trucheon pen for ppm testing. What do you think about that, because I've never been able to test ppm before.

ive got the bluelab had it years their superb mate but dont but them cheap brand ones that look like

them get a proper bluelab it will last you forever

 

[Odissey]

i can't really tell without the ec from your runoff and your starting feed but she does look hungry also have you fed her any calmag since you planted her

Well in the beggining I was adding calmag but it started showing cal mag def. Then I read somewhere that adding calmag to ph perfect can actually cause calmag def because it throws the ph perfect off. So I stopped and it got much better. I will go with soil next since I have very little time to do the ph adjustments. So for now I think I'll just try to ride this one out. I am just surprised my last grow was so trouble free and got such a plentiful and great quality harvest using the same method pretty much. Anyway, thanks for your help!