no amber but new pistils - when can I harvest?

[Powertotheflower]

I'm growing a Gorilla Glue (fastbuds 80 days old) and a Auto Maria II (Paradise Seeds 70 days) on a terrace. We had a great summer for growing outside (warm and sunny). Both seemed to have mainly milky trichs since 10 days and I thought I could chop them about a week ago because all the fan leaves got brown and most pistils as well. but I wanted to wait for the first amber to show. but until now still no amber and in the last 2 days both developed buds with new white pistils (GG just a few, but AM a lot).
does anyone had that before also? how long will it probably take until harvest?

 

[BigB6]

I'm growing a Gorilla Glue (fastbuds 80 days old) and a Auto Maria II (Paradise Seeds 70 days) on a terrace. We had a great summer for growing outside (warm and sunny). Both seemed to have mainly milky trichs since 10 days and I thought I could chop them about a week ago because all the fan leaves got brown and most pistils as well. but I wanted to wait for the first amber to show. but until now still no amber and in the last 2 days both developed buds with new white pistils (GG just a few, but AM a lot).
does anyone had that before also? how long will it probably take until harvest?

Myself I would harvest. The new growth would probably be foxtails. Nothing wrong so to speak but some of the bud could end up being under developed since it's new growth. Hard to tell without a picture

 

[Powertotheflower]

Thanks for your reply. I have to admit that apparently I was a bit too impatient. When I checked yesterday evening I saw a little bit amber at the Gorilla and a tiny little bit at the AutoMaria. So the Gorilla was put in the darkchamber last evening. But I thought of giving the AM a few more days in the sun because it still seemed to grow (quite a lot of new white pistils). I will try to get a picture this evening, when I get home. But what are "foxtails"?

 

[mdabber]

Thanks for your reply. I have to admit that apparently I was a bit too impatient. When I checked yesterday evening I saw a little bit amber at the Gorilla and a tiny little bit at the AutoMaria. So the Gorilla was put in the darkchamber last evening. But I thought of giving the AM a few more days in the sun because it still seemed to grow (quite a lot of new white pistils). I will try to get a picture this evening, when I get home. But what are "foxtails"?

I like foxtails some ppl don't because it takes away from that dense looking bud. But ppl are dumb sometimes because they would buy pgr hormones up buds because they would grind out forever.

Problem with the bud dense hormone is it ruins resin so good for their final weight bad for quality. I don't think its as common now because ppl have to compete with quality more.

Foxtails

Basically with pgrs all bud would look the same no matter genetics just dense.

https://internationalhighlife.com/cannabis-guide-the-dangers-of-pgr-weed/

 

[UHF]

"Trichomes will not turn amber for a couple of reasons. First, some strains just won’t have 50% of the trichomes turning amber before the plant begins to senesce; they’ll show a few amber trichomes, often less than 30%. Low temperatures can also inhibit trichome development and maturity. Thus they won’t turn amber even after you extent harvesting time."

Why Are My Trichomes Not Turning Amber? - WeedMania420

Several factors can contribute to your trichomes not turning amber. Poor genetics, low temperature, and hostile growing conditions can inhibit development.

weedmania420.com

 

[MIAutomatic]

Foxtails later in your flowering cycle can also be a response to too much light. As the plant nears the end of its life it doesn’t need as much light as it did while it was stacking flowers. It doesn’t really do any harm, but it does seem to slow down ripening slightly and the foxtails themselves never get fully ripe since they form so late. Some cultivars are definitely more prone to foxtails and throwing pistils late, but I think believe that is the exception and more often what people are seeing is a response to too much light late flowering.

I think I got this tip from one of Dr. Bugbee’s videos. I have put into practice with two strains I grew previously that both developed foxtails late flowering, Double Grape and Skywalker OG. When I grew them a second time and backed the light off from 50+ DLI down to 30-35 for the last couple weeks neither of them developed foxtails on the second grow. Still mostly anecdotal, but my experience plus Dr. Bugbee’s word is good enough for me.

Good luck!

 

[Powertotheflower]

thanks for the news. i'm growing on a terrace and this summer the plants got a lot of sunlight, though the nights not too rarely went down to 12°, sometimes even less.

 

[Powertotheflower]

here are pictures of the plant

 

[Powertotheflower]

 

[Death The Cultivator]

Foxtails later in your flowering cycle can also be a response to too much light. As the plant nears the end of its life it doesn’t need as much light as it did while it was stacking flowers. It doesn’t really do any harm, but it does seem to slow down ripening slightly and the foxtails themselves never get fully ripe since they form so late. Some cultivars are definitely more prone to foxtails and throwing pistils late, but I think believe that is the exception and more often what people are seeing is a response to too much light late flowering.

I think I got this tip from one of Dr. Bugbee’s videos. I have put into practice with two strains I grew previously that both developed foxtails late flowering, Double Grape and Skywalker OG. When I grew them a second time and backed the light off from 50+ DLI down to 30-35 for the last couple weeks neither of them developed foxtails on the second grow. Still mostly anecdotal, but my experience plus Dr. Bugbee’s word is good enough for me.

Good luck!

Some landrace cultivars reflower several times by the end of harvest. It's part of their genetics and isn't always seen if harvested early. I wouldn't say their bad and something I like seeing with landrace sativas. Definitely not lacking for potency.