Old Reviews My "Lava" trilogy (and more...)
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Salutations everybody,
Change of plans, my previously scheduled topic is now cancelled but there's something else in my Lava world which erupted recently that seems at home here, somehow:
Hummm... The idea occured after i saw nice visual documentation refering to this portable fire-operated vaporizer called the NimbinVap:
[video=youtube;yGjiTZhdhao]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGjiTZhdhao[/video]
This is a version 4 and once the reader has acquired sufficient information it may become mind boggling to imagine ways to adapt a NimbinVap for Induction Heat, e.g. via magnetic induction as in kitchens, or for that matter dentistry environments where the NoFlame is an IH driver actually designed to heat wax tools, possibly made of an alloy characterized by the Curie effect, as a result of its metalurgical composition. I've been informed once a 2 mm thick metal part reached 230 degrees Celcius after 5 seconds only, the unit consumes a total power of 130 Watts as i recall (while similar devices would take 110 or so). This tells me there may be sufficient electro-magnetic juice to excite Curie alloys installed inside such a pipe like the NimbinVap, but the machine may reject objects not corresponding to some wax-tool profile as normally expected...
If it fits inside the front IH driver apperture that is! "Munch..munch..munch
Got a hint?? I'll need to find dimensions somewhere i guess.
Anyway it looks nice, although i'd prefer a silicon skin with a mattress of dots in between to provide a warm organic touch while air separating those dots contributes to a thermal isolation effect. IMO wood sure is plain sexy but i fear it would eventually crack after a few falls, while a mattress of dots would absorb mechanical stress...
Time to leave, today's rare sunrays in my veranda are calling all the sudden!
Good day, have fun!!
Change of plans, my previously scheduled topic is now cancelled but there's something else in my Lava world which erupted recently that seems at home here, somehow:
Hummm... The idea occured after i saw nice visual documentation refering to this portable fire-operated vaporizer called the NimbinVap:
[video=youtube;yGjiTZhdhao]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGjiTZhdhao[/video]
This is a version 4 and once the reader has acquired sufficient information it may become mind boggling to imagine ways to adapt a NimbinVap for Induction Heat, e.g. via magnetic induction as in kitchens, or for that matter dentistry environments where the NoFlame is an IH driver actually designed to heat wax tools, possibly made of an alloy characterized by the Curie effect, as a result of its metalurgical composition. I've been informed once a 2 mm thick metal part reached 230 degrees Celcius after 5 seconds only, the unit consumes a total power of 130 Watts as i recall (while similar devices would take 110 or so). This tells me there may be sufficient electro-magnetic juice to excite Curie alloys installed inside such a pipe like the NimbinVap, but the machine may reject objects not corresponding to some wax-tool profile as normally expected...
If it fits inside the front IH driver apperture that is! "Munch..munch..munch
Got a hint?? I'll need to find dimensions somewhere i guess.
Anyway it looks nice, although i'd prefer a silicon skin with a mattress of dots in between to provide a warm organic touch while air separating those dots contributes to a thermal isolation effect. IMO wood sure is plain sexy but i fear it would eventually crack after a few falls, while a mattress of dots would absorb mechanical stress...
Time to leave, today's rare sunrays in my veranda are calling all the sudden!
Good day, have fun!!
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Salutations everybody,
Change of focus again!
The thread's name still reads My "Lava" trilogy (and more...), so i guess part of what's "more" had to come 1st, while i still tried to decide how i'd want to start next...
Finally back to my opening of a discussion in 'The Vapor Chamber':
{ Ha! Ha! Can't let go of a single opportunity to recycle such fine artwork, in the "Vapor Chamber", of course!...
}
...
Euh... Well it's been another inspiring day since the gentle sunrays of April felt new at last! Now how about setting the stage for enhanced enjoyment of cannabic exhales, as it dances around?! Almost mystically...
But 1st things 1st!
NOTICE:
There's nothing for sale here, no "beta" prototypes or anything - ZERO commerce. I simply got a collection of concepts to share under a few common themes, possibly influenced by existing products with legit pattents (details ahead).
My present thread's only purpose is to submit personal perspectives. For example like this:
"Next Generation Vaporizer Fantasy" (2010-Dec-1)
The funny thing is our present incursion into my Lava universe shall begin with illustrations reminescent of an old topic, published elsewhere in days when Induction Heating was an item on my mind already, during some period around the winter of 2010.
Back then i was evaluating a method to remove a pump and its related synthetic materials from the cannabic path - not to mention its associated aroma/taste. A long reflexion took place afterwards and now i can finally define my inclusive Induction Heat scenario as follows: it's a classification system reflecting convenience & comfort. I call it "My Lava Trilogy":
All groups rely on Thermostatic IH elements characterized by their intrinsic Curie effect. Cat. A would be where the "Purist" niche can reside, Cat. B meets most expectactions and Cat. C makes room for "economy" alternatives. Hence the "trilogy" word in my title, meaning i believe IH technology can serve and embrace a vast range of situations, inclusively, unlike elitist ways.
...
Now back to my initiation days again.
A commercial product known as the VapBong/Vaponic gave me the idea of a moddified helix version i'd want as model for my basic template, because it's "clean" (fresh-air enters exactly on the same side as its cannabic vapour will exit - quite honestly a path hardly gets any more "obvious" than this)! In short that's a feature worthy of my Lava reasoning: potent safe/obvious paths.
Ah, and talking of which... Eventually Volcano's venerable reputation inspired me this adaptation shown below:
That imaginative vision integrated ultra-sonic shaking in order to promote prompt thermalization, in addition to being a self-maintenance element as a bonus. After all magnetized parts are all it takes to an IH system to double as a vibrator i figure, which brings an opportunity to explore this elementary aspect:
This would be a front-view representing a capsule's transversal center joint/aperture, where both cups meet together to form a cartridge system with half-bowls connected by this joint. Each cup has 3 protruding poles (and also 3 complementary seats) on their bowl side, so a pair of cups will naturally match each-other and seal around such a bowl, formed by the juxtaposition of twin halves.
Initially both alloys would absorb magnetic energy, then Alloy #1 would progressively turn "transparent" (magnetically), by virtue of its Curie point, hence leaving more energy available to speed-up/finish power injection within alloy #2 (next)...
This represents my whole "Lava" cartridge system so far:
The symetrical design implies re-heating and hence efficient delivery through the multi-function SiC sponges.
My choice of the "Lava" tag has to do with the word evoking generous amounts of heat within an application range. Thanks to the Curie effect thermostatic heat can be implemented (at the point of contact) which consumes magnetic power on-demand, when and where it's needed. That's one main principle.
By the way here's a graphic providing an idea of what IH speed we might benefit from:
764 °C in 200 msec, from real industrials!
And this is JAI's corresponding IH vaporizing bowl:
Available with these "PyroFoil" Curie temperatures:
Of course other formulations would provide an even wider spectrum of target Curie points.
One most precious characteristic of IH technology is the absence of wires, final delivered power would be determined by geometry/mass and the Curie point so the IH elements size/weight would likely determine bowl capacity, ultimately.
Personally i've attempted to explore by myself a method to render IH ideas compatible with fire (though in absence of a proper Curie alloy), in fact i happen to have been evaluating "Plan-B" (where "B" stands for "Butane") since the last 2 years using my modded VG pipe, that's "Bi-Energy" as it is, and i can even think of a 3rd energy source, but while i'm at it i must now explain something about my personalized VaporGenie Classic pipe: the genuine VG device has a pattent covering SiC + butane flame scenarios as i recall, so i wrote them to suggest addition of an IH mode but the reader shouldn't ask VG about my "Lava" things anyway as it would likely bother them! Yet even if it's still little more than cannabic fantasies for aldults i found that some reality incursions actually remain possible, hence my pipe experiments.
...
On top of that lets contemplate a 3rd energy source candidate, previously mentioned right above:
Mechanical energy as in a dynamo!!
Which in turn possibly leads to an IH driver scenario similar to this:
Then one might think of this:
A fault-tolerant IH battery-operated driver with bells & whistles (litterally!)... Except i'd want 3 power cells.
Anyway, back to a capsule's ultrasonic vibrator function, euh... Well this will illustrate the principle behind:
So, in theory this magnetized "bullet" can shake its cannabic load while being heated thermostatically (internally regulated, at the point of contact!) from both sides. Just before a hot stream of moist air (H2O) carries the noble molecules away.
My bet is that should prove to be "clean" while it can be made to emulate the intense leaching action of hot-gasses in a modded VG pipe, where more energy density is expected comparatively to dry air. For example using an IH-driven water boiler/evaporator...
Of course that depends how much it takes (only a few drops i guess).
...
This covers my subject for now as it's been some long post already and there's enough hints for everyone to fill some of the gaps anyway.
So i simply wish the reader appreciates my proposal for a safer/healthier vaporist future under the sunrays.
Good day, have fun!!
Change of focus again!
The thread's name still reads My "Lava" trilogy (and more...), so i guess part of what's "more" had to come 1st, while i still tried to decide how i'd want to start next...
Finally back to my opening of a discussion in 'The Vapor Chamber':
...
... ...on the right in the background! ...
{ Ha! Ha! Can't let go of a single opportunity to recycle such fine artwork, in the "Vapor Chamber", of course!...
}...
Euh... Well it's been another inspiring day since the gentle sunrays of April felt new at last! Now how about setting the stage for enhanced enjoyment of cannabic exhales, as it dances around?! Almost mystically...
But 1st things 1st!
NOTICE:
There's nothing for sale here, no "beta" prototypes or anything - ZERO commerce. I simply got a collection of concepts to share under a few common themes, possibly influenced by existing products with legit pattents (details ahead).
My present thread's only purpose is to submit personal perspectives. For example like this:
"Next Generation Vaporizer Fantasy" (2010-Dec-1)
The funny thing is our present incursion into my Lava universe shall begin with illustrations reminescent of an old topic, published elsewhere in days when Induction Heating was an item on my mind already, during some period around the winter of 2010.
Back then i was evaluating a method to remove a pump and its related synthetic materials from the cannabic path - not to mention its associated aroma/taste. A long reflexion took place afterwards and now i can finally define my inclusive Induction Heat scenario as follows: it's a classification system reflecting convenience & comfort. I call it "My Lava Trilogy":
CATEGORY
A) Hot-Stream Convection, Conduction Pre-Heating, "Plan-B" Portable and/or Battery option
B) Conduction, implicitely Self-Conditioned in "Plan-B" mode, Convection and 12 Vdc options
C) Conduction, Self-Moisturized, 3rd-Party (user-supplied) IH Driver
B) Conduction, implicitely Self-Conditioned in "Plan-B" mode, Convection and 12 Vdc options
C) Conduction, Self-Moisturized, 3rd-Party (user-supplied) IH Driver
All groups rely on Thermostatic IH elements characterized by their intrinsic Curie effect. Cat. A would be where the "Purist" niche can reside, Cat. B meets most expectactions and Cat. C makes room for "economy" alternatives. Hence the "trilogy" word in my title, meaning i believe IH technology can serve and embrace a vast range of situations, inclusively, unlike elitist ways.
...
Now back to my initiation days again.
A commercial product known as the VapBong/Vaponic gave me the idea of a moddified helix version i'd want as model for my basic template, because it's "clean" (fresh-air enters exactly on the same side as its cannabic vapour will exit - quite honestly a path hardly gets any more "obvious" than this)! In short that's a feature worthy of my Lava reasoning: potent safe/obvious paths.
Ah, and talking of which... Eventually Volcano's venerable reputation inspired me this adaptation shown below:
That imaginative vision integrated ultra-sonic shaking in order to promote prompt thermalization, in addition to being a self-maintenance element as a bonus. After all magnetized parts are all it takes to an IH system to double as a vibrator i figure, which brings an opportunity to explore this elementary aspect:
This would be a front-view representing a capsule's transversal center joint/aperture, where both cups meet together to form a cartridge system with half-bowls connected by this joint. Each cup has 3 protruding poles (and also 3 complementary seats) on their bowl side, so a pair of cups will naturally match each-other and seal around such a bowl, formed by the juxtaposition of twin halves.
Initially both alloys would absorb magnetic energy, then Alloy #1 would progressively turn "transparent" (magnetically), by virtue of its Curie point, hence leaving more energy available to speed-up/finish power injection within alloy #2 (next)...
This represents my whole "Lava" cartridge system so far:
The symetrical design implies re-heating and hence efficient delivery through the multi-function SiC sponges.
My choice of the "Lava" tag has to do with the word evoking generous amounts of heat within an application range. Thanks to the Curie effect thermostatic heat can be implemented (at the point of contact) which consumes magnetic power on-demand, when and where it's needed. That's one main principle.
By the way here's a graphic providing an idea of what IH speed we might benefit from:
764 °C in 200 msec, from real industrials!
And this is JAI's corresponding IH vaporizing bowl:
Available with these "PyroFoil" Curie temperatures:
Of course other formulations would provide an even wider spectrum of target Curie points.
One most precious characteristic of IH technology is the absence of wires, final delivered power would be determined by geometry/mass and the Curie point so the IH elements size/weight would likely determine bowl capacity, ultimately.
Personally i've attempted to explore by myself a method to render IH ideas compatible with fire (though in absence of a proper Curie alloy), in fact i happen to have been evaluating "Plan-B" (where "B" stands for "Butane") since the last 2 years using my modded VG pipe, that's "Bi-Energy" as it is, and i can even think of a 3rd energy source, but while i'm at it i must now explain something about my personalized VaporGenie Classic pipe: the genuine VG device has a pattent covering SiC + butane flame scenarios as i recall, so i wrote them to suggest addition of an IH mode but the reader shouldn't ask VG about my "Lava" things anyway as it would likely bother them! Yet even if it's still little more than cannabic fantasies for aldults i found that some reality incursions actually remain possible, hence my pipe experiments.
...
On top of that lets contemplate a 3rd energy source candidate, previously mentioned right above:
Mechanical energy as in a dynamo!!
Which in turn possibly leads to an IH driver scenario similar to this:
Then one might think of this:
A fault-tolerant IH battery-operated driver with bells & whistles (litterally!)... Except i'd want 3 power cells.
Anyway, back to a capsule's ultrasonic vibrator function, euh... Well this will illustrate the principle behind:
So, in theory this magnetized "bullet" can shake its cannabic load while being heated thermostatically (internally regulated, at the point of contact!) from both sides. Just before a hot stream of moist air (H2O) carries the noble molecules away.
My bet is that should prove to be "clean" while it can be made to emulate the intense leaching action of hot-gasses in a modded VG pipe, where more energy density is expected comparatively to dry air. For example using an IH-driven water boiler/evaporator...
Of course that depends how much it takes (only a few drops i guess).
...
This covers my subject for now as it's been some long post already and there's enough hints for everyone to fill some of the gaps anyway.
So i simply wish the reader appreciates my proposal for a safer/healthier vaporist future under the sunrays.
Good day, have fun!!
Before light there was darkness.
Salutations everybody,
What if the instrument were defined by a customer's own expectations instead of instruments setting a range of options?
When i switch between my HerbalAire (with Arizer Solo Glass Stem) contraption and my moddified VaporGenie pipe an evidence is revealed with renewed pertinence, constantly: those are 2 radically different modes of consumption where my personalized HA promises deep extraction though it's quite a slow process when compared to the modded VG pipe, as the later works in a bursting fashion and packets of energy result in the release of cannabic vapor, packet-like i would add. In terms of ritual the HA feels similar to other electric ustensiles found in a kitchen, while my pipe used in conjunction with a few sunrays in my veranda differs significantly: it's not unlike playing music! So i got to wonder who plays music with a coffee maker??
Briefly put the pipe wins my preference when it comes to ritual, not to mention in that pipe of mine it's not heated dry-air alone which dislodges my cannabic goodies then carries them away from a vaporization bowl: i call it hot stream, or more precisely in the case of a LavaWand concept, "packet-stream" vaporization...
It's no secret. The pipe doesn't work based on heated dry air alone, mine which served as some form of "proof-of-concept" prototype (in discussions elsewhere before) implies a mix of hot air and the relatively "clean" output from burned butane gas, e.g. Energy + CO2 + H2O, plus i presume "impurities" present in the gas can (i tagged this "comet dust")...
So, before a solution can even begin to appear plausible there's the matter of consumption mode which depends a great deal on ritual, judging from my personal experience. For the last couple years i've evaluated "Plan-B", where "B" stands for "Butane"... I could spare myself from the CO2 and comet dust but i definitively gained optimism around that water vapor also present in a stream of hot burned butane gas, because water is supposed to contain more heat as i recall... Meaning, unless i'd be mistaking hot air doesn't contain as much energy as such hot stream. While with dry-air there's still the option to post-condition it's not the same to vape using a hot stream instead, IMHO.
That opinion needs to be verified, of course!
...
The HA configuration with "FogBong" effect is wasteful though my pipe's modest bowl size combines with hot-stream vaporization (as defined previously) and hence i can imagine with packet-stream instead, when a proper IH element and driver become commercially available. M'well, unless someone decides to cut into some existing product, for example:
This is a "ControlInduc" Stainless Steel Fry Pane, imported from Europe. Something i'd hate having to destroy at ~270 $ CAD per unit! So i once though of a strategy where i gave up on the CD-ROM size disc and decided in favour of metal ribons instead:
The longer the greater ring circumference it will support, for exemple i estimated the middle strip illustrated above would measure ~6" long and eventually result in a series of rings with final thickness/height determined by their initial widths, or 1" large each in this specific case. So, the smaller bands seem OKay for a pair of ¾" (dia.) rings. Perhaps that will fit nicely on top of a smaller glass tube itself wrapped around an SiC puck working as an IH element in a heat-exchanger. Hummm...
M'well...
Actually i begin to reason for just a slight supplement i might prefer a larger pan where both ribons and a CD-ROM size disc will fit side-by-side. The CD-ROM disc being for this scenario or similar:
This was my "fantasy" as viewed ~4 years ago. It represented a multilayer design made of glass sheets held together using a silicon brace which doubled as a shock-absorber... The glass sheets inside would look something like this:
Superposition of different layers would result in channels forming a concentric heat-exchanger, with its culmination point at the central focus aperture, under a cannabic vaporisation bowl... I recall the triangle slice was for control of fresh-air inlet admission. The red dots were for IH elements contained in glass tubes that could release mechanical heat-stress due to their star structure.
My goal was to find a way to fit a basic IH vape inside standard CD-ROM jackets - maybe with a detachable bowl to match... All this had to meet my "obviousness"/"see-thru" criteria as well.
Finally that was a "purist" proof idea since contact was made with hot-glass surfaces only, with the metal pellets sealed in glass arms (back then). It can still prove to be economic too because a CD-ROM size metal disc (cut into the sort of cookware mentioned above) is all it takes for a ready-made commercially-available IH driving plate to detect/acknowledge and activate (i'd fear smaller discs will typically fail on these 3rd-party IH drivers).
Mine cost a hundred cannuck bucks at Sears years ago, so a complete vaporizer kit providing thermostatic heat at the point of contact inside a planar disc-shaped heat-exchanger shouldn't even cost 200 bucks i guess, because the rest is just basic glassware (though precisely cut) plus a silicon brace to hold it together...
Too bad it's still going to be "dry" cannabis vapor though. So, in retrospective of my previous post that's a "Grade-B" scenario i'm afraid: good enough for purists while sufficiently cheap for anyone else to afford. In addition to more glass a "Grade-A" structure would require an auxiliary IH element, possibly with a different Curie point to serve in water heating-boiling, to feed an evaporator/conditioner stage via on-demand capilarity, etc., etc.
Ultimately, packet-stream vaporisation would become an option since the limited-size IH element has a finite mass and hence a finite heat capacity, whatever, etc. E.G. once "energized" the stored heat should be relatively predicatable, reproducible. Meaning ritual would emulate a pipe in terms of delay while redefining comfort/safety of a toke, as a consequence of the chaos component being removed (no possible risk of combustion/failure), essentially!...
The item would propose a large contact surface with metal maintainted below a target Curie temperature around 230 ~ 260 °C, heat-up time doesn't happen to be much of a concern with IH technology and hence each toke shall be ready in seconds, in semi-table format (a custom 12 Volts portable IH driver remains possible while the CD-ROM size unit & associated bowl will fit a hand-bag, etc).
Good day, have fun!!
Salutations everybody,
What if the instrument were defined by a customer's own expectations instead of instruments setting a range of options?
When i switch between my HerbalAire (with Arizer Solo Glass Stem) contraption and my moddified VaporGenie pipe an evidence is revealed with renewed pertinence, constantly: those are 2 radically different modes of consumption where my personalized HA promises deep extraction though it's quite a slow process when compared to the modded VG pipe, as the later works in a bursting fashion and packets of energy result in the release of cannabic vapor, packet-like i would add. In terms of ritual the HA feels similar to other electric ustensiles found in a kitchen, while my pipe used in conjunction with a few sunrays in my veranda differs significantly: it's not unlike playing music! So i got to wonder who plays music with a coffee maker??
Briefly put the pipe wins my preference when it comes to ritual, not to mention in that pipe of mine it's not heated dry-air alone which dislodges my cannabic goodies then carries them away from a vaporization bowl: i call it hot stream, or more precisely in the case of a LavaWand concept, "packet-stream" vaporization...
It's no secret. The pipe doesn't work based on heated dry air alone, mine which served as some form of "proof-of-concept" prototype (in discussions elsewhere before) implies a mix of hot air and the relatively "clean" output from burned butane gas, e.g. Energy + CO2 + H2O, plus i presume "impurities" present in the gas can (i tagged this "comet dust")...
So, before a solution can even begin to appear plausible there's the matter of consumption mode which depends a great deal on ritual, judging from my personal experience. For the last couple years i've evaluated "Plan-B", where "B" stands for "Butane"... I could spare myself from the CO2 and comet dust but i definitively gained optimism around that water vapor also present in a stream of hot burned butane gas, because water is supposed to contain more heat as i recall... Meaning, unless i'd be mistaking hot air doesn't contain as much energy as such hot stream. While with dry-air there's still the option to post-condition it's not the same to vape using a hot stream instead, IMHO.
That opinion needs to be verified, of course!
...
The HA configuration with "FogBong" effect is wasteful though my pipe's modest bowl size combines with hot-stream vaporization (as defined previously) and hence i can imagine with packet-stream instead, when a proper IH element and driver become commercially available. M'well, unless someone decides to cut into some existing product, for example:
This is a "ControlInduc" Stainless Steel Fry Pane, imported from Europe. Something i'd hate having to destroy at ~270 $ CAD per unit! So i once though of a strategy where i gave up on the CD-ROM size disc and decided in favour of metal ribons instead:
The longer the greater ring circumference it will support, for exemple i estimated the middle strip illustrated above would measure ~6" long and eventually result in a series of rings with final thickness/height determined by their initial widths, or 1" large each in this specific case. So, the smaller bands seem OKay for a pair of ¾" (dia.) rings. Perhaps that will fit nicely on top of a smaller glass tube itself wrapped around an SiC puck working as an IH element in a heat-exchanger. Hummm...
M'well...
Actually i begin to reason for just a slight supplement i might prefer a larger pan where both ribons and a CD-ROM size disc will fit side-by-side. The CD-ROM disc being for this scenario or similar:
This was my "fantasy" as viewed ~4 years ago. It represented a multilayer design made of glass sheets held together using a silicon brace which doubled as a shock-absorber... The glass sheets inside would look something like this:
Superposition of different layers would result in channels forming a concentric heat-exchanger, with its culmination point at the central focus aperture, under a cannabic vaporisation bowl... I recall the triangle slice was for control of fresh-air inlet admission. The red dots were for IH elements contained in glass tubes that could release mechanical heat-stress due to their star structure.
My goal was to find a way to fit a basic IH vape inside standard CD-ROM jackets - maybe with a detachable bowl to match... All this had to meet my "obviousness"/"see-thru" criteria as well.
Finally that was a "purist" proof idea since contact was made with hot-glass surfaces only, with the metal pellets sealed in glass arms (back then). It can still prove to be economic too because a CD-ROM size metal disc (cut into the sort of cookware mentioned above) is all it takes for a ready-made commercially-available IH driving plate to detect/acknowledge and activate (i'd fear smaller discs will typically fail on these 3rd-party IH drivers).
Mine cost a hundred cannuck bucks at Sears years ago, so a complete vaporizer kit providing thermostatic heat at the point of contact inside a planar disc-shaped heat-exchanger shouldn't even cost 200 bucks i guess, because the rest is just basic glassware (though precisely cut) plus a silicon brace to hold it together...
Too bad it's still going to be "dry" cannabis vapor though. So, in retrospective of my previous post that's a "Grade-B" scenario i'm afraid: good enough for purists while sufficiently cheap for anyone else to afford. In addition to more glass a "Grade-A" structure would require an auxiliary IH element, possibly with a different Curie point to serve in water heating-boiling, to feed an evaporator/conditioner stage via on-demand capilarity, etc., etc.
Ultimately, packet-stream vaporisation would become an option since the limited-size IH element has a finite mass and hence a finite heat capacity, whatever, etc. E.G. once "energized" the stored heat should be relatively predicatable, reproducible. Meaning ritual would emulate a pipe in terms of delay while redefining comfort/safety of a toke, as a consequence of the chaos component being removed (no possible risk of combustion/failure), essentially!...
The item would propose a large contact surface with metal maintainted below a target Curie temperature around 230 ~ 260 °C, heat-up time doesn't happen to be much of a concern with IH technology and hence each toke shall be ready in seconds, in semi-table format (a custom 12 Volts portable IH driver remains possible while the CD-ROM size unit & associated bowl will fit a hand-bag, etc).
Good day, have fun!!
Salutations,
Obviously "Plan-B" is important to have in a "Grade-A" concept where it should appear as a "DeLuxe" option, e.g. for added convenience. Anyway i wouldn't recommend an optional plan as the default operating mode, not to mention there are persons who won't be satisfied with any use of butane, period. So that's why butane is only meant as an option.
My present post was supposed to explore a second launch, focussed on "purist" materials this time; instead i wish to clarify my previous mentions of the VaporGenie pattent which covers SiC "filters" in combination with a flame, making the VG people exclusive owners of this exact idea, simply because it was theirs to begin with. So, naturally my modded pipe which was based on a VG Mapple Classic must have inherited the legal restriction, despite its reconfigured core. Consequently the readers who might wish to replicate my experiments should prepare themselves to sacrifice 1 pipe in order to rebuild the other, just as i did, and of course the remodeling voids their warranty. Nonetheless, in ethical terms i see nothing wrong in a rearangement of 2 pipes as 1 once those have been acquired legitedly, with intellectual rights accounted for on the bill, etc.
My hope is that although it's probably not such a great idea for the VG manufacturer this might eventually serve to inspire new features to come later, but right now i believe we must remind ourselves that VaporGenie doesn't need to be bothered with such owner self-customisations, whatever. The thing is their Mapple Classic pipe felt convenient as a prototype base so i simply used it. Consequently the "Bi-Energy" aspect of my "Plan-B" falls under VG copyright, which is reason enough to search for alternatives if the discussion is to progress, for example perhaps this could me made IH compatible even more easily:
Lets not forget nothing is for sale here, it's all about proof-of-concept using items accessible locally.
I wrote it before, IMHO the VaporGenie manufacturer should consider extending their existing pattent to include "Bi-Energy", in any case. Maybe even mechanical (dynamo) force as a 3rd energy source!... In the meantime lets consider simultaneous (Bi-Energy) function of SiC pucks leads to a grey zone. Which brings me back to materials for purists.
Now here's what i'd like to evaluate:
It would behave according to the Curie effect and implement a thermostatic IH element, possibly one which also works as the substrate for cannabic condensate, etc... Notice the "aerial" similitude with my pipe's "core":
Now imagine these metal bits happen to be Curie-effect IH elements:
So in butane-free mode there's no fire and hence no possible pattent violation, at least until VaporGenie decides to integrate Induction Heat into their popular VG products. This core structure below doesn't have to reside inside a flame-compatible pipe, but that would fall below my "Grade-A" Lava category...
Front puck (facing flames) must be 4 mm thick, the 3rd puck follows. It was trimmed down to 2 mm thick only:
So my final thickness progression was 4 mm (front puck), 3 mm (core puck), 2 mm (top-of-bowl puck).
...
Perhaps someday an hypothetical "dynamo" option would compensate for the convenience of butane. I wonder.
Well, it was "Plan-B" i toyed with for a couple years so lets have a look though trying to have the IH butane-free mode in mind. But 1st of all purist materials... That would be glass, then ceramic, metal, synthetics, etc. SiC lies between glass and ceramic, it's heat tolerant and chemically inert, etc., so here's the aproximate size of an SiC puck from my VG pipe:
And this is a competitor's pipe with quite a similar layout:
Except i'd prefer this more uniform implementation:
In this concept an Arizer Solo Glass Stem served as the spark...
Notice at this point the symetrical capsule had yet to emerge in my LavaWand universe, so this could be "Grade-C" i guess:
Actually dry flower vaporization should take just half a capsule, making this scenario more affordable. Perhaps that particular configuration can be rendered compatible with a 3rd-party IH driver like the NoFlame Plus (illustrated on top), it would have a tiny amount of hot metal surfaces exposed to the lungs path (instead of glass or ceramic praised by purists), no cannabic conditioning would be available since "Plan-B" may need to be excluded by material selection (...), to bring cost down a bit further... All theory of course.
Then there's practice.
It's when i definitely adopted the "PinHole" conditioning feature.
And direct-mating connector system for my PVC tubing extensions...
As little as 3/64" (1.2 mm) is required for VapMan-style pinhole conditioning it seems, beware...
Finally this is my modded VG pipe as of now:
The "Plan-B" configuration has been successfully evaluated again and again while i have no doubt it would also perform nicely in a butane-free consumption mode with the proper metal alloys sitting in its IH-compatible core.
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Talking of IH cores, lets finish the present post with a multimedia interlude...
It showed a CD-ROM size disc could reach ~185 °C in seconds, my video capture also revealed vibrations induced within the disc (it even caused it to slide!) which i figure is a bonus feature that should be exploited to improve thermalization, ultimately, etc.
Good day, have fun!!
Obviously "Plan-B" is important to have in a "Grade-A" concept where it should appear as a "DeLuxe" option, e.g. for added convenience. Anyway i wouldn't recommend an optional plan as the default operating mode, not to mention there are persons who won't be satisfied with any use of butane, period. So that's why butane is only meant as an option.
My present post was supposed to explore a second launch, focussed on "purist" materials this time; instead i wish to clarify my previous mentions of the VaporGenie pattent which covers SiC "filters" in combination with a flame, making the VG people exclusive owners of this exact idea, simply because it was theirs to begin with. So, naturally my modded pipe which was based on a VG Mapple Classic must have inherited the legal restriction, despite its reconfigured core. Consequently the readers who might wish to replicate my experiments should prepare themselves to sacrifice 1 pipe in order to rebuild the other, just as i did, and of course the remodeling voids their warranty. Nonetheless, in ethical terms i see nothing wrong in a rearangement of 2 pipes as 1 once those have been acquired legitedly, with intellectual rights accounted for on the bill, etc.
My hope is that although it's probably not such a great idea for the VG manufacturer this might eventually serve to inspire new features to come later, but right now i believe we must remind ourselves that VaporGenie doesn't need to be bothered with such owner self-customisations, whatever. The thing is their Mapple Classic pipe felt convenient as a prototype base so i simply used it. Consequently the "Bi-Energy" aspect of my "Plan-B" falls under VG copyright, which is reason enough to search for alternatives if the discussion is to progress, for example perhaps this could me made IH compatible even more easily:
Lets not forget nothing is for sale here, it's all about proof-of-concept using items accessible locally.
I wrote it before, IMHO the VaporGenie manufacturer should consider extending their existing pattent to include "Bi-Energy", in any case. Maybe even mechanical (dynamo) force as a 3rd energy source!... In the meantime lets consider simultaneous (Bi-Energy) function of SiC pucks leads to a grey zone. Which brings me back to materials for purists.
Now here's what i'd like to evaluate:
It would behave according to the Curie effect and implement a thermostatic IH element, possibly one which also works as the substrate for cannabic condensate, etc... Notice the "aerial" similitude with my pipe's "core":
So my final thickness progression was 4 mm (front puck), 3 mm (core puck), 2 mm (top-of-bowl puck).
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Perhaps someday an hypothetical "dynamo" option would compensate for the convenience of butane. I wonder.
Well, it was "Plan-B" i toyed with for a couple years so lets have a look though trying to have the IH butane-free mode in mind. But 1st of all purist materials... That would be glass, then ceramic, metal, synthetics, etc. SiC lies between glass and ceramic, it's heat tolerant and chemically inert, etc., so here's the aproximate size of an SiC puck from my VG pipe:
And this is a competitor's pipe with quite a similar layout:
Except i'd prefer this more uniform implementation:
In this concept an Arizer Solo Glass Stem served as the spark...
Notice at this point the symetrical capsule had yet to emerge in my LavaWand universe, so this could be "Grade-C" i guess:
Actually dry flower vaporization should take just half a capsule, making this scenario more affordable. Perhaps that particular configuration can be rendered compatible with a 3rd-party IH driver like the NoFlame Plus (illustrated on top), it would have a tiny amount of hot metal surfaces exposed to the lungs path (instead of glass or ceramic praised by purists), no cannabic conditioning would be available since "Plan-B" may need to be excluded by material selection (...), to bring cost down a bit further... All theory of course.
Then there's practice.
It's when i definitely adopted the "PinHole" conditioning feature.
And direct-mating connector system for my PVC tubing extensions...
As little as 3/64" (1.2 mm) is required for VapMan-style pinhole conditioning it seems, beware...
Finally this is my modded VG pipe as of now:
The "Plan-B" configuration has been successfully evaluated again and again while i have no doubt it would also perform nicely in a butane-free consumption mode with the proper metal alloys sitting in its IH-compatible core.
...
Talking of IH cores, lets finish the present post with a multimedia interlude...
It showed a CD-ROM size disc could reach ~185 °C in seconds, my video capture also revealed vibrations induced within the disc (it even caused it to slide!) which i figure is a bonus feature that should be exploited to improve thermalization, ultimately, etc.
Good day, have fun!!
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More...
So i believe it should be no problem implementing a planar "stealth" heat-exchanger, using the classic vintage (full-height) format casing dimensions if more space is absolutely required, though i doubt it. Such a tiny trio of "U" shaped copper wires won't waste much magnetic induction power while providing some solid attachment point(s) to a bowl, in any case. The 3 slots serve multiple purposes including hot air transfer as it simultaneously implements latching anchor points for those hooks.
A ring of soft heat-resistant sealing material would seem desirable. Possibly silicone located at a safe distance, for direct exposure to the heat source...
So i believe it should be no problem implementing a planar "stealth" heat-exchanger, using the classic vintage (full-height) format casing dimensions if more space is absolutely required, though i doubt it. Such a tiny trio of "U" shaped copper wires won't waste much magnetic induction power while providing some solid attachment point(s) to a bowl, in any case. The 3 slots serve multiple purposes including hot air transfer as it simultaneously implements latching anchor points for those hooks.
A ring of soft heat-resistant sealing material would seem desirable. Possibly silicone located at a safe distance, for direct exposure to the heat source...
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More thoughts over "Hot-Stream Convection"...
That one fits the "priority" niche which "purists" and "elitists" altogether will eventually become attracted to IMO.
All metal parts must reach a surface temperature between ~150 °C and ~250 °C i would say, because water is present and no chances can be taken with liquid (condensed) water below 120 °C, as i recall... So, lets revisit my 3rd-party IH driver scenario where the provider is a local hardware store such as Sears, perhaps Canadian Tire, Walmart, etc. Go figure! As long as it doesn't cost much more than a hundred bucks for a ~1.3 Kilo-Watts device (no need to get bothered with such IH tool - but the cookware variety seems likely to operate correctly with a metal disc the size of a CD-ROM or lager), so a preliminary evaluation may be possible using an IH pan and assorted custom-made heat-exchanger assembly i believe.
Imagine, enameled copper may suffice to perform some excellent heat-exchanger implementation in terms of quality/co$t ratio!
M'well, the IH plate is 100 $ CAD while the whole imported IH pan sells around 230$ CAD, euh... That's some 330 $ CAD already and a heat-resistant inert heat-exchanger module made of enameled copper (plus bowl adaptor!) has yet to be accounted for. Honestly, a guy has got to be curious. Maybe that's why nobody tried it so far.
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Anyway. There would need to be a drop-by-drop on-demand IH-driven water boiler/evaporator or something, no surface can be allowed to collect condensed water vapor over long periods ever. The flexible tubing extension of a NimbinVap seems appropriate for my prefered configuration, although my present PoW (plastic PVC over wood) quick-mating system works just fine. The idea is that self-conditioned cannabic vapor will cause some water droplets to form on the mouthpiece side, eventually... So, frequent maintenance would seem quite recommendable in such context, so i favour having a convenient detachable flexible tubing extension to match in the end, for sanitary reasons and more. Now how do i transpose that to a planar design instead??
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That is the cost for full emulation of inlet self-conditioned/moisturized cannabis vapor, the alternative being "Plan-B" where "B" stands for "Butane" (and the flame should never touch anything and/or generate soot, etc)... Too bad some purists will never settle over that one. So there has to be a butane-free niche after all, but how does one implement the equivalent of hot air being enhanced with a hot stream of gases resulting from "clean" butane burning exactly?... Mainly i guess this hot stream meant to enrich my flame's heated air must behave like the cone of a jet flame, ideally, in order to prevent water condensation inside. The water droplets must be gone early, real soon after the last toke. So, i'd think residual heat stored in my heat-exchanger will suffice to keep it dry. At least my modded VG pipe seems relatively dry (though sticky) up to the tubing extension (which i detach routinely for maintenance anyway)...
I can't resist the urge to imagine these features in a NimbinVap instead or a VaporGenie. It offers direct eye-contact as sold, i can appreciate that a lot. If only i could get my hands on one to evaluate the rest"!...
Happy thoughts.
Good day, have fun!!
That one fits the "priority" niche which "purists" and "elitists" altogether will eventually become attracted to IMO.
All metal parts must reach a surface temperature between ~150 °C and ~250 °C i would say, because water is present and no chances can be taken with liquid (condensed) water below 120 °C, as i recall... So, lets revisit my 3rd-party IH driver scenario where the provider is a local hardware store such as Sears, perhaps Canadian Tire, Walmart, etc. Go figure! As long as it doesn't cost much more than a hundred bucks for a ~1.3 Kilo-Watts device (no need to get bothered with such IH tool - but the cookware variety seems likely to operate correctly with a metal disc the size of a CD-ROM or lager), so a preliminary evaluation may be possible using an IH pan and assorted custom-made heat-exchanger assembly i believe.
Imagine, enameled copper may suffice to perform some excellent heat-exchanger implementation in terms of quality/co$t ratio!
M'well, the IH plate is 100 $ CAD while the whole imported IH pan sells around 230$ CAD, euh... That's some 330 $ CAD already and a heat-resistant inert heat-exchanger module made of enameled copper (plus bowl adaptor!) has yet to be accounted for. Honestly, a guy has got to be curious. Maybe that's why nobody tried it so far.
...
Anyway. There would need to be a drop-by-drop on-demand IH-driven water boiler/evaporator or something, no surface can be allowed to collect condensed water vapor over long periods ever. The flexible tubing extension of a NimbinVap seems appropriate for my prefered configuration, although my present PoW (plastic PVC over wood) quick-mating system works just fine. The idea is that self-conditioned cannabic vapor will cause some water droplets to form on the mouthpiece side, eventually... So, frequent maintenance would seem quite recommendable in such context, so i favour having a convenient detachable flexible tubing extension to match in the end, for sanitary reasons and more. Now how do i transpose that to a planar design instead??
...
That is the cost for full emulation of inlet self-conditioned/moisturized cannabis vapor, the alternative being "Plan-B" where "B" stands for "Butane" (and the flame should never touch anything and/or generate soot, etc)... Too bad some purists will never settle over that one. So there has to be a butane-free niche after all, but how does one implement the equivalent of hot air being enhanced with a hot stream of gases resulting from "clean" butane burning exactly?... Mainly i guess this hot stream meant to enrich my flame's heated air must behave like the cone of a jet flame, ideally, in order to prevent water condensation inside. The water droplets must be gone early, real soon after the last toke. So, i'd think residual heat stored in my heat-exchanger will suffice to keep it dry. At least my modded VG pipe seems relatively dry (though sticky) up to the tubing extension (which i detach routinely for maintenance anyway)...
I can't resist the urge to imagine these features in a NimbinVap instead or a VaporGenie. It offers direct eye-contact as sold, i can appreciate that a lot. If only i could get my hands on one to evaluate the rest"!...
Happy thoughts.
Good day, have fun!!
Note to myself.
About the need to keep water temperature(s) within safety range:
Ah... There it is!
2.2.1 Influence of temperature
« ...at temperatures above 70 ºC they are destroyed almost instantly... »
So, where i typed 150 °C i should have put 65 °C (150 °F) instead i guess. Hummm...
Well, it must dry out before all stored heat is gone.
So lets assume a "wand" inside some IH driver receptacle closes a path containing some high-temperature mix, temporarily, where water vapor serves as cannabic carrier although it cannot/must not be allowed to condense ever, as no water can be tolerated inside.
It could take the form of a collar around the IH receptacle's aperture. Heat transfers from the IH elements to the capsule's surface to a 1 drop, or drop-by-drop, etc., water boiler/evaporator or something... Leaks must be absorbed by the surrounding dry air before surface condensation would risk to occur. Such scenario may suggest that introduction of the wand into its IH driver cavity has to be what should trigger magnetic power injection exactly, because it must not stay in once done: residual moist air must be ventilated away before the unit cools off, actually. So the wand would lie down besides i suppose... With the IH "wound" left open to dry out completely. Safely...
Basic intuition alone tells me that's hardly compatible with a CD-ROM size disc though.
About the need to keep water temperature(s) within safety range:
Ah... There it is!
2.2.1 Influence of temperature
« ...at temperatures above 70 ºC they are destroyed almost instantly... »
So, where i typed 150 °C i should have put 65 °C (150 °F) instead i guess. Hummm...
Well, it must dry out before all stored heat is gone.
So lets assume a "wand" inside some IH driver receptacle closes a path containing some high-temperature mix, temporarily, where water vapor serves as cannabic carrier although it cannot/must not be allowed to condense ever, as no water can be tolerated inside.
It could take the form of a collar around the IH receptacle's aperture. Heat transfers from the IH elements to the capsule's surface to a 1 drop, or drop-by-drop, etc., water boiler/evaporator or something... Leaks must be absorbed by the surrounding dry air before surface condensation would risk to occur. Such scenario may suggest that introduction of the wand into its IH driver cavity has to be what should trigger magnetic power injection exactly, because it must not stay in once done: residual moist air must be ventilated away before the unit cools off, actually. So the wand would lie down besides i suppose... With the IH "wound" left open to dry out completely. Safely...
Basic intuition alone tells me that's hardly compatible with a CD-ROM size disc though.
Salutations,
It seems more time under a few early sunrays in the veranda proved beneficial again...
Today i got some challenge for our reader's own entertainment.
Try to find out which of these 5 pictures was added last (chronologically):
Hint for those who still wonder:
YouTube: Go-Go Dancers 60's. 1960's Little Betty Boop Also Appears. (2012-Dec-8)
Now just don't think and pick a number!
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Hummm... What could that be about?? Dancers, their eyes, or ankles...
I must be a visual, actually it's #2: my new LEGO-style source of inspiration, based on refurbished/moddified stepper motor parts found in a pair of very obsolete hard-drives (hosting MS-DOS as an operation system, etc!)... That's no proof-of-concept though at least it provides a fair overview on probable physical dimmensions, with inclusion of a significant safety air gap between the stator's inner surfaces and any cylinder inserted into its IH apperture. The initial hole was enlarged using a 21/32" (dia.) drill bit, consequently a tube's ideal circumference would be 5/8 " (dia.) or even slightly smaller, depending on available power and the optional presence of a thin heat-insulation (polyimide) sheet to protect the coils from dissipated heat even more efficiently.
In a stepper motor the magnetic coupling is optimized in order to transform electric power into mechanical torque force, my bet is that such material selection & layout may be good enough for Induction Heat production as well. If so, then i suppose a customized IH driver can be implemented through standardized stepper motor electronics...
Last but not least:
Finally!
I was shoping west of Montreal's Jazz festival site lately and found this conical "screen" visible in the center of my photograph above. It appears i needed more thermal mass in the core after all, which allows me to get rid of the glass shield with no negative consequences that i could notice. On another hand those SiC pucks became so eroded from successive experimentations it was necessary to wrap them in metal screens so i could force them to hold in place...
So, the sequence now describes as follows. Heat and H2O from a blue torch flame are captured without ever touching, in order to prevent soot formation, etc. The front SiC body should be thicker i guess, 4 mm would work without a screen and that would mean 1 genuine puck can be cut in halves and yet the 2nd SiC disc will be OKay as my top-of-bowl screen. Which brings this last important detail: i'm now loading the bowl up-side-down since it has moved to the ball's screw aperture!...
In addition, lets notice the post-vaporization chamber also moved up the chain: into the large metal cylinder (on the handle) to be exact. This translates as earlier cooling while my double-screen setup in there can aborb some more heat even before it reached my pipe's maple wood handle.
Progress is made!
Further experimenting went quite fine so far...
It seems more time under a few early sunrays in the veranda proved beneficial again...
Today i got some challenge for our reader's own entertainment.
Try to find out which of these 5 pictures was added last (chronologically):
Hint for those who still wonder:
YouTube: Go-Go Dancers 60's. 1960's Little Betty Boop Also Appears. (2012-Dec-8)
Now just don't think and pick a number!
...
Hummm... What could that be about?? Dancers, their eyes, or ankles...
I must be a visual, actually it's #2: my new LEGO-style source of inspiration, based on refurbished/moddified stepper motor parts found in a pair of very obsolete hard-drives (hosting MS-DOS as an operation system, etc!)... That's no proof-of-concept though at least it provides a fair overview on probable physical dimmensions, with inclusion of a significant safety air gap between the stator's inner surfaces and any cylinder inserted into its IH apperture. The initial hole was enlarged using a 21/32" (dia.) drill bit, consequently a tube's ideal circumference would be 5/8 " (dia.) or even slightly smaller, depending on available power and the optional presence of a thin heat-insulation (polyimide) sheet to protect the coils from dissipated heat even more efficiently.
In a stepper motor the magnetic coupling is optimized in order to transform electric power into mechanical torque force, my bet is that such material selection & layout may be good enough for Induction Heat production as well. If so, then i suppose a customized IH driver can be implemented through standardized stepper motor electronics...
Last but not least:
Finally!
I was shoping west of Montreal's Jazz festival site lately and found this conical "screen" visible in the center of my photograph above. It appears i needed more thermal mass in the core after all, which allows me to get rid of the glass shield with no negative consequences that i could notice. On another hand those SiC pucks became so eroded from successive experimentations it was necessary to wrap them in metal screens so i could force them to hold in place...
So, the sequence now describes as follows. Heat and H2O from a blue torch flame are captured without ever touching, in order to prevent soot formation, etc. The front SiC body should be thicker i guess, 4 mm would work without a screen and that would mean 1 genuine puck can be cut in halves and yet the 2nd SiC disc will be OKay as my top-of-bowl screen. Which brings this last important detail: i'm now loading the bowl up-side-down since it has moved to the ball's screw aperture!...
In addition, lets notice the post-vaporization chamber also moved up the chain: into the large metal cylinder (on the handle) to be exact. This translates as earlier cooling while my double-screen setup in there can aborb some more heat even before it reached my pipe's maple wood handle.
Progress is made!
Further experimenting went quite fine so far...
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