My autos dont like my bloom switch‍‍♂️

[H8plow]

Looks to me like they have reached their DLI limit or circadian rhythm. Those two light fixtures are a lot for a 4x2. I run a 550 rspec in a 3x3 And I have it turned down to 75%. The red bulb is not the issue, when the DLI is reached they are exhausted.
Look at it like this, you’ve stayed awake for 18 hours, your drinking coffee but it isn’t keeping you awake. You are going to show signs of fatigue right? Your plant is telling you the same thing.
My advice: Use the king led only, raise the light up so it is 24” above the canopy (use their recommendation for distance) and use a 18/6 light schedule. Drink a beer and relax, plants tell you everything you need to know by showing you.

 

[Dimebag101]

Thank you. That makes sense. Should i run both switches for rest of life or is there a point when it is best to run bloom only? And what stage in life is an autoflower too old to recover from stress?

 

[Arthur]

Do you have an infrared temperature sensor (gun)? I'd be curious as to your leaf temps with the "bloom" on and off. @ 18" to 20" it may just be too much too fast.

 

[Dimebag101]

Do you have an infrared temperature sensor (gun)? I'd be curious as to your leaf temps with the "bloom" on and off. @ 18" to 20" it may just be too much too fast.

No. I honestly didnt think the 2 Leds i got were enough i was willin to try. I invested $700 into my operation. Ventilation, tent, leds, fans, timers, PH kit, soil/super soil consentrate, smart pots, dehumidifier, microscope, neem oil, solo mister, and 5 seeds. Only the 3 2 fast 2 vasts popped. The 2 gorillas i got free did not.

 

[Free Flow]

This hobby can get expensive. I've invested over 1k in just lights over the last year. Finally settled on diy cobs that set me back around 700. Plants look good to me I would raise the lights a bit and run 18/6

 

[Arthur]

This hobby can get expensive. I've invested over 1k in just lights over the last year. Finally settled on diy cobs that set me back around 700. Plants look good to me I would raise the lights a bit and run 18/6

$700 ,Same here, when I first looked at DIY cobs a couple years ago, it was a little overwhelming. But it all came together with a little studying.

And dimebag, just wondering about the temps, when you are turning on the bloom switch, is that with the veg? Or veg off? Thinking if its in addition, and you've been running it @ 20 inches, you just increased your output significantly, but did not raise the fixture.

You may need to raise it, and bring it down gradually.

 

[Dimebag101]

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Looks to me like they have reached their DLI limit or circadian rhythm. Those two light fixtures are a lot for a 4x2. I run a 550 rspec in a 3x3 And I have it turned down to 75%. The red bulb is not the issue, when the DLI is reached they are exhausted.
Look at it like this, you’ve stayed awake for 18 hours, your drinking coffee but it isn’t keeping you awake. You are going to show signs of fatigue right? Your plant is telling you the same thing.
My advice: Use the king led only, raise the light up so it is 24” above the canopy (use their recommendation for distance) and use a 18/6 light schedule. Drink a beer and relax, plants tell you everything you need to know by showing you.

I Just went and checked them and the leaves seem to be enjoying the new light setup and distance. Ty again and hope they continue doing well. Is there any more information or any new pics you might need to

This hobby can get expensive. I've invested over 1k in just lights over the last year. Finally settled on diy cobs that set me back around 700. Plants look good to me I would raise the lights a bit and run 18/6

Thats what i did bro. took out the Tolys and left the king. Raised it to 24". The seem to be responding positively to the new setup.

 

[Dimebag101]

You all were right. There was just entirely too much light. I didnt notice because i was confusing heat stress with light stress. My temps were optimal so i overlooked the light issue. Ive read that there can never be to much light. Well that is obviously far from the truth. I have removed the Tolys LED. Raised the King to 24" with the veg and bloom switches both on. My girls are responding positively. Thank you all for your help. I will update with some pics in a few days.
You guys are awesome.
This site is awesome.

 

[H8plow]

You all were right. There was just entirely too much light. I didnt notice because i was confusing heat stress with light stress. My temps were optimal so i overlooked the light issue. Ive read that there can never be to much light. Well that is obviously far from the truth. I have removed the Tolys LED. Raised the King to 24" with the veg and bloom switches both on. My girls are responding positively. Thank you all for your help. I will update with some pics in a few days.
You guys are awesome.
This site is awesome.

It’s really easy to over think it, and it can stress you out. Kinda the same way when you get a cold and look it up on the interweb only to find out you have 6 hours to live lol.
There are a few podcasts I’d recommend for you. Rasta Jeff has one called “grow from your heart”, great show and a lot of tips. The other one is with The dude, Scotty, and crew over at “the dude grows show”, great stuff to listen to when tou are working in the garden and I highly recommend it.

Lastly........pick up some “recharge” you’ll thank me later. Happy grows growmie!

 

[Arthur]

I second the vote for Recharge. Works well, and I like their participation in the community.