Cool thanks, how long would you wait until you flick it up to 400 watt? They have been at 20 cm for about 4 days which is 25c at the centre ones leaf hight, they look healthy. I kept reading people saying it was a waste of electric to have them on MH that early so was thinking about going to cfl. How long do you give seedlings 24h? I intend on going 20-4 or 18-6. I thought stretch was bad?! This will be a scrog Thanks