Help! Plant stretching

Joined
Jul 29, 2020
Messages
33
Reputation
0
Reaction score
9
Points
0
I’ve been asking a lot of questions and a few people on here have been kind enough to answer my noobie questions
I have two plants in my tent one is gorilla glue 5 gallon and other is Pineapple Express 3 gallon
The problem I’m facing is the gorilla glue is stretching more then the Pineapple Express
The gorilla glue is showing signs of being to close to the light
Tips burning ,leaf curls, discoloration on leafs
The pineapple is looking good but now it’s about 11 inches from the light where as the gorilla glue is only 5 inches away from the top cola and the rest of it is about 9 inches away

a few weeks ago the problem was vice versa
Pineapple was bigger
Someone told me to stop adjusting the light which I did however I adjusted very minimal but didn’t want the plant touching the light either
seeds were planted and sprouted by 10/08 to give you a idea on their life.
 

Attachments

  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.9 MB · Views: 67
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    3.3 MB · Views: 69
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.8 MB · Views: 68
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.5 MB · Views: 66
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.6 MB · Views: 54
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    4 MB · Views: 57
Supercrop.

Lightly squeeze and roll the stems between your fingers to loosen the fibers and make them soft and pliable then bend them over 90 degrees. As long as you don't snap or split the stem, she'll be fine.

I have to do this almost every grow as I'm too lazy for training early on and tend to grow larger plants than I should. :pass:
 
That is not light burn it is a nutrient problem! LEDs can only burn if the plant actually comes in contact with the diodes.

These colas were within inches of the lights for more than a month without any sign of burning. HID lamps are a different story!

_DSC1924.JPG

Let's see if we can get to the bottom of this.

Please fill in this form: (copy and paste part is below, this first one tell what specifically to include)

-Problem: (brief description)
-Medium/grow method: soil; soilless-- coco, or peat based like Promix, etc. (please provide the actual product name); DWC, NFT, etc.
-Feed and supplements used: include brand, dosage/strength, frequency of feeding and watering (alone); method-- by hand, drippers, rercirc' or drain-to-waste,... N-P-K #'s too if you can!
-Water source: RO/DI; tap- dechlorinated-?..... EC or TDS reading; pH (don't bother with this on RO/DI, do bother with TDS/EC though to confirm it's working well enough)
-Strain and age
-Climate: night and day ambient T and RH%; res' temperatures; any extremes in T/RH% exposure
- Light used: HID, LED, COB, combo of,... wattage; light cycle hours (20/4, 18/6 , etc.); distance to tops....
-Additional info: PH in the root zone. How long have the plants been affected?...How fast did symptoms appear?... Anything else you think might be relevant..

--Pictures including WHOLE PLANT PICS, and troubled leaves.. use normal light or flash as other light sources ruin color rendering, critical for diagnostics! Turn off the grow lights.

✂ - - - - - - - - - - -
(copy and paste)-->

Problem:

Medium/grow method:

Feed: and supplements used:

water source:

PH in the root zone:

Strain/age:

light used:

Climate:

Additional info:
 
Problem: leaves are showing signs of stress

Medium/grow method: Coco and perlite

Feed: and supplements used: Humboldt secret a/b
Golden tree, orca, cal mag.

water source: distilled water from cvs or

PH in the root zone:
6.0-6.2
Strain/age: gorilla glue 5 gallon fabric pot ( shows more signs of stress)
Pineapple Express 3 gallon fabric pot ( minimal signs of stress) germinated seeds 10/07 planted in fabric pots 10/09

light used: California light works solar extreme 250

Climate: 70-80F humidity 50-60% purchasing a dehumidifier soon

Additional info:
Feeding at ph of 6.1 run off is 6.3
330 at feed run off 215
Pineapple Express

Second feed 3 gallons
15ml or 3 teaspoon (tsp) of cal mag or 1/2 oz
3.5-4ml of orca
18 ml a
16-18ml b
3-3.5 ml golden tree

16ml cal mag
4ml orca
20ml a
20 ml b
3ml golden tree

3.5 gallon water
18ml cal mag
5ml orca
24ml a
24 ml b
4ml golden tree

4gallon
20ml calmag
8ml orca
30ml a
30 ml b
7 ml golden tree
 
Photos
the better looking plant to the right is the pineapple
The gorilla seems to be stressed
 

Attachments

  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.9 MB · Views: 27
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.9 MB · Views: 34
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.7 MB · Views: 28
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.2 MB · Views: 28
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.6 MB · Views: 26
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.6 MB · Views: 21
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.4 MB · Views: 24
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.8 MB · Views: 22
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.6 MB · Views: 18
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.5 MB · Views: 17
That is not light burn it is a nutrient problem! LEDs can only burn if the plant actually comes in contact with the diodes.

These colas were within inches of the lights for more than a month without any sign of burning. HID lamps are a different story!

View attachment 1257810

Let's see if we can get to the bottom of this.

Please fill in this form: (copy and paste part is below, this first one tell what specifically to include)

-Problem: (brief description)
-Medium/grow method: soil; soilless-- coco, or peat based like Promix, etc. (please provide the actual product name); DWC, NFT, etc.
-Feed and supplements used: include brand, dosage/strength, frequency of feeding and watering (alone); method-- by hand, drippers, rercirc' or drain-to-waste,... N-P-K #'s too if you can!
-Water source: RO/DI; tap- dechlorinated-?..... EC or TDS reading; pH (don't bother with this on RO/DI, do bother with TDS/EC though to confirm it's working well enough)
-Strain and age
-Climate: night and day ambient T and RH%; res' temperatures; any extremes in T/RH% exposure
- Light used: HID, LED, COB, combo of,... wattage; light cycle hours (20/4, 18/6 , etc.); distance to tops....
-Additional info: PH in the root zone. How long have the plants been affected?...How fast did symptoms appear?... Anything else you think might be relevant..

--Pictures including WHOLE PLANT PICS, and troubled leaves.. use normal light or flash as other light sources ruin color rendering, critical for diagnostics! Turn off the grow lights.

✂ - - - - - - - - - - -
(copy and paste)-->

Problem:

Medium/grow method:

Feed: and supplements used:

water source:

PH in the root zone:

Strain/age:

light used:

Climate:

Additional info:
 
Problem: leaves are showing signs of stress

Medium/grow method: Coco and perlite

Feed: and supplements used: Humboldt secret a/b
Golden tree, orca, cal mag.

water source: distilled water from cvs or

PH in the root zone:
6.0-6.2
Strain/age: gorilla glue 5 gallon fabric pot ( shows more signs of stress)
Pineapple Express 3 gallon fabric pot ( minimal signs of stress) germinated seeds 10/07 planted in fabric pots 10/09

light used: California light works solar extreme 250

Climate: 70-80F humidity 50-60% purchasing a dehumidifier soon

Additional info:
Feeding at ph of 6.1 run off is 6.3
330 at feed run off 215
Pineapple Express

Second feed 3 gallons
15ml or 3 teaspoon (tsp) of cal mag or 1/2 oz
3.5-4ml of orca
18 ml a
16-18ml b
3-3.5 ml golden tree

16ml cal mag
4ml orca
20ml a
20 ml b
3ml golden tree

3.5 gallon water
18ml cal mag
5ml orca
24ml a
24 ml b
4ml golden tree

4gallon
20ml calmag
8ml orca
30ml a
30 ml b
7 ml golden tree
Ok so I can see the dilution you are making but it does not tell us what is going into the pot. You need an EC meter to determine the strength of your nutrients. Of particular interest is the PPM of the calmag you are adding. The saving grace may be the distilled water but without PPM it is just guess work. Part a has calcium and part b has magnesium so it might be too much combined. The Golden tree and Orca can also have a magnification effect on the elements made available to the plant.

Your plants do not look too bad and maybe you miss-measured something one day? Hydro is unforgiving of mistakes.

Without EC I cannot make recommendations. So get a meter your plants will thank you.
 
Ok so I can see the dilution you are making but it does not tell us what is going into the pot. You need an EC meter to determine the strength of your nutrients. Of particular interest is the PPM of the calmag you are adding. The saving grace may be the distilled water but without PPM it is just guess work. Part a has calcium and part b has magnesium so it might be too much combined. The Golden tree and Orca can also have a magnification effect on the elements made available to the plant.

Your plants do not look too bad and maybe you miss-measured something one day? Hydro is unforgiving of mistakes.

Without EC I cannot make recommendations. So get a meter your plants will thank you.

okay I have a Ppm meter I don’t really know how to interpret it but when I used it in the beginning I was getting 330 ppm was before feeding and run off I got 215 I will update the current Ppm reading in a hour or so about to feed
 
okay I have a Ppm meter I don’t really know how to interpret it but when I used it in the beginning I was getting 330 ppm was before feeding and run off I got 215 I will update the current Ppm reading in a hour or so about to feed
Testing run-off is notoriously inaccurate at telling you much unless you do it continually and learn the patterns. I do not find that necessary.
Information that will be useful.

First make sure your meter is calibrated. Follow the manufactures instructions.
Take a gallon of your water and measure the PPM the meter may get an error as distilled water should be zero PPM then put 20ml of the cal-mag you are using blend well and measure the PPM. Divide this number by 20 and that will give you a good average PPM of 1ml of the cal-mag. Do the same for each part of the a and b nutrients separately. The Idea is to know ahead how many PPM each product should add to your fertilizer mix.

I have to run an errand BBL.
 
I messed with the trellis and I feel like I made this plant more upset than already or it could have been pushed against the tent due to trellis that’s why I adjusted didn’t look put on correct
I was thinking of getting a knife and cutting the branches hanging
I know this may stress the plant like crazy
Wanted your thoughts
I’m really happy with the pineapple the gorilla glue took off but seems picky to it’s food
 

Attachments

  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    1.9 MB · Views: 20
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2 MB · Views: 22
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.3 MB · Views: 21
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2 MB · Views: 20
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.3 MB · Views: 29
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    2.6 MB · Views: 21
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    4 MB · Views: 27
Back
Top