Live Stoner Chat Grams you get from autoz

[Antony27]

Hello there people. I am nearly a new grower and also new in this forum, so move my thread if it shouldn't be in this section.
Well, let's start. As I wrote on the title, my main problem is how many grams you get from a good grown plant. Ofcourse I am not talking about experts, or people who have still planted a lot of autoz and they know the basics, but I am talking about the new growers.
I have been reading posts about growing cannabis here and a few months. So all in all, I know some things. The only thing I havent figured out is what is the average quantiny of a well-grown auto plant. Let's take an example for you to understand better my inquiry. Nearly all the seeds' producers have some information about the quantity such as " 50-250gr/plant " . So that being said, you will get like 230gr at the end, if you are a good grower ( or maybe more ) . Otherwise you will end up with like 40-50gr, if you are new in growing. Everything is fine until now, I can completely understand the difference.
What I really can't understand , is that how is it possible for some ppl to get like 5gr/plant ? The producer has given the least quantity available, so how those ppl get soo bad results ? Ok, I understand it has to do with the water, nutrients, lights, airflow, moisture, temperature, etc etc. But how can someone still get so little buds ? Maybe that guys never used water or sth
I really can't understand, that's why I ask you my friends.
Me, I am going to grow a Blue Gelato auto seed. Only 1 plant for the beginning. I will use a 20L pot, 4x LED E27 30w 4000k ( for both veg and flowering stage, cause I lack of money ) ,BioBizz LightMix soil, BioBizz Biogrow,BioBloom and TopMax. Moreover, AN B52, BigBud and Overdrive. All of them at their certain point, using like the 1/4 of the manufacturer's suggested dose. I gonna turn on the lights for like 18/24 or 20/24 daylight. My watering will be careful. Very little at the beginning around the seed, so that the soil is moistened and +50-100ml week by week. Until I reach harvest and go like 1L or sth. Basically I will lift up the pot every day, so that I have an idea if it needs water or not.
I have really collected a lot of information, so I guess everything will be fine.
But I still have the same question in my mind . Will I still get like 5gr ?? I mean I will measure Ph , nutrients, everything. Shouldn't I get like around 80-100 for my first time ? Of course , as long as everything goes fine.
Thanks for reading all this. Please, don't suggest me other types of soils, nutrients, etc. These are the only one I can buy cheap here that I live. I have plenty of time to collect more information from this forum concerning to different choices I can use in the future, but atm I feel ok with these I bought. Please, just try to understand my topic and explain me what is really going on with grams. Thanks

 

[MesaBoogie]

my first grows were about 28-45g per plant under old viparspectra led junk. I think getting over an ounce is a reasonable goal you should be able achieve your first few grows.

 

[Arthur]

This is an unanswerable question. There are growers, there are good growers, and then there are the exceptional few.

Some people kill anything they touch that's growing, canna, or veggies...

Most of the severely poor harvests I've seen are due to poor lighting and over pruning. There is a definite talent to knowing what and when to cut.
And then the new guys that get suckered into purchasing subpar lighting. Lights are the engine of the grow, so... Hyundai? Or Hemi?

I think the least I've had an auto put out was just under 100 grams, most hit 120 (my goal with my plant count).

I grew photos first, and my first run looked bad, real bad, but that was pre internet, and info was hard to come by.
I think most of the really poor ones you've seen are more than likely, someone new, that did no research, just bought some gear off amazon, and thinking all it takes is putting a seed in the dirt and you come back to collect your nugs. Sounds like your doing the research.

 

[Antony27]

Ok thanks guys. I had watched a video on youtube where a guy had planted 3 auto seeds on pots outdoors, gave them normally their water and 2 nutrients. As a result, he got 13gr from 1 plant, 10 from the other and... 5! from the last one. That moment I was like WTF . So I became a bit curious after watching that video.
Well my main problem has to do with the money. I mean that if I had to spend 40$ and get even 20gr, then I wouldn't have problem. But right now, I am willing to give around 150$ for everything, so I would be really disappointed if I get so little results. Well to be honest, my goal is around 70gr ( and more ) . If I get this amount, then I will be very proud.
Thanks

 

[Arthur]

Outdoor is an entirely different beast. Your stuck with whatever conditions mother nature provides.

If I run autos outside, they spend their first month indoor. Temp fluctuations and poor rH can really reduce the overall size, and therefore harvest.

Mostly I run photos out and autos in, with the occasional overflow ending up on the porch.

I will add that on a standard run I spend approximately 600$.
That covers power, nutes, soil, genetics, everything. My average harvest is 600 to 750 grams, so from about .75 cents and 1$ a gram cost.

Biggest cost for me is power, here its 29 cents a KWH, so 400 of that is just electric.

 

[Antony27]

Outdoor is an entirely different beast. Your stuck with whatever conditions mother nature provides.

If I run autos outside, they spend their first month indoor. Temp fluctuations and poor rH can really reduce the overall size, and therefore harvest.

Mostly I run photos out and autos in, with the occasional overflow ending up on the porch.

I will add that on a standard run I spend approximately 600$.
That covers power, nutes, soil, genetics, everything. My average harvest is 600 to 750 grams, so from about .75 cents and 1$ a gram cost.

Biggest cost for me is power, here its 29 cents a KWH, so 400 of that is just electric.

Ok thank you. Well, I will start soon my new adventure and I believe I will end up with good results. I have a history with nature and plants in general, so I have an idea about it already. It is not that I have grown up only in a city.
I would like to ask you something else. Grow-Bloom-Topmax and B52 I believe are quite " important " . Bigbud and overdrive are the two nutrients I have not bought yet. They have their own components as well, but they are a biit expensive for me. I have read that each one of nutrients, that are used in mid-flowering and after stage, help buds make more THC etc . But, do you believe they are that important in the end ? Thanks

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

A couple of things that may help you: Run those lights 20/4 on/off. Plant your seed right in the pot but water the whole pot. A cannabis tap root can grow 9 inches in 3 days and the laterals about half that speed. If a root hits a dry spot they will stop growing in that direction. It is called air-pruning (air pots do this intentionally). We want as much early growth in the root system as we can get. Bigger roots = bigger plants = bigger yield. Your choking point right now is the lights but any given plant can fool you and just love your lights?

What you need to learn about watering will come with practice. Here are the basic rules: Never let the soil dry out. Soil and or coco can become hydrophobic if allowed to dry. This means it repels water. This in turn will create dry pockets in the soil and roots there will die. If your soil - coco have accidentally dried out use a surfactant to help re-wet it. I like yucca powder. Don't let soil remain soggy by watering too much too often. Root rot, damping off, molds, fungus gnats and other problems start in soggy soil. When you do water water the entire pot. How to learn when to water starts before you plant the seed. Fill your container with fresh soil/coco and weigh it (heft it) this is the lightest weight and consider it a dry pot. Now slowly water until the soil/coco will no longer absorb the water and run-off begins; weigh the pot (heft it) this is the maximum water, the wettest the pot can get. The difference between wettest and driest is the maximum water weight, for ease of explanation lets just say the water weighs 20 pounds. When the pot loses 10 pounds (half of the water weight) it is time to water again. There is an art to watering.

Start week 3 with 25% nutes. Use a water, water, feed, repeat cycle when the pot needs water. Then move to 50% strength nutrients. After that increase by 10% each week until a little bit of tip burn then back off 10%.

With 120w of light theoretically you can hit 1.2g/w with those lights so 144g is possible.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Ok thank you. Well, I will start soon my new adventure and I believe I will end up with good results. I have a history with nature and plants in general, so I have an idea about it already. It is not that I have grown up only in a city.
I would like to ask you something else. Grow-Bloom-Topmax and B52 I believe are quite " important " . Bigbud and overdrive are the two nutrients I have not bought yet. They have their own components as well, but they are a biit expensive for me. I have read that each one of nutrients, that are used in mid-flowering and after stage, help buds make more THC etc . But, do you believe they are that important in the end ? Thanks

IMPO and no offense intended but mixing and matching nutrients from different vendors is difficult even for experienced growers. I recommend you get ALL of the items in the Bio-Bizz line everything you need for a successful grow is in them. Forget the other vendors for now. Being "Mother Nature" to your plants is a big responsibility and there will be many lessons to learn over the next couple of months. You do not need to make it any more complicated.

Ps. Genetics and lights make more THC. Don't buy into marketing hype.

 

[Antony27]

A couple of things that may help you: Run those lights 20/4 on/off. Plant your seed right in the pot but water the whole pot. A cannabis tap root can grow 9 inches in 3 days and the laterals about half that speed. If a root hits a dry spot they will stop growing in that direction. It is called air-pruning (air pots do this intentionally). We want as much early growth in the root system as we can get. Bigger roots = bigger plants = bigger yield. Your choking point right now is the lights but any given plant can fool you and just love your lights?

What you need to learn about watering will come with practice. Here are the basic rules: Never let the soil dry out. Soil and or coco can become hydrophobic if allowed to dry. This means it repels water. This in turn will create dry pockets in the soil and roots there will die. If your soil - coco have accidentally dried out use a surfactant to help re-wet it. I like yucca powder. Don't let soil remain soggy by watering too much too often. Root rot, damping off, molds, fungus gnats and other problems start in soggy soil. When you do water water the entire pot. How to learn when to water starts before you plant the seed. Fill your container with fresh soil/coco and weigh it (heft it) this is the lightest weight and consider it a dry pot. Now slowly water until the soil/coco will no longer absorb the water and run-off begins; weigh the pot (heft it) this is the maximum water, the wettest the pot can get. The difference between wettest and driest is the maximum water weight, for ease of explanation lets just say the water weighs 20 pounds. When the pot loses 10 pounds (half of the water weight) it is time to water again. There is an art to watering.

Start week 3 with 25% nutes. Use a water, water, feed, repeat cycle when the pot needs water. Then move to 50% strength nutrients. After that increase by 10% each week until a little bit of tip burn then back off 10%.

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With 120w of light theoretically you can hit 1.2g/w with those lights so 144g is possible.

Oh thanks for all this info. To be honest I had an idea about all these here and there, but you made it seem easier
My only inquiry here is how much the flowering nutrients help buds to improve. What I mean is that I havent practised each nutrient by my own. As a result I cant be sure. The one nutrient sais that makes buds larger or fixes the smell or makes them looj better. But how much do they really get their job done ?

 

[Antony27]

IMPO and no offense intended but mixing and matching nutrients from different vendors is difficult even for experienced growers. I recommend you get ALL of the items in the Bio-Bizz line everything you need for a successful grow is in them. Forget the other vendors for now. Being "Mother Nature" to your plants is a big responsibility and there will be many lessons to learn over the next couple of months. You do not need to make it any more complicated.

Ps. Genetics and lights make more THC. Don't buy into marketing hype.

Ohh ok, thanks