Grow Mediums First overflow - reduce water level?

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Hey all. I rearranged my plants, and my best guess is that I may have turned the pots in a way that they were ever so slightly out of level and had a spill that came out the notch where the tube goes into the tray.
At one point, I recall reading about someone making a minor modification that kept the water level in the trays a bit lower. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Maybe have a link?
Or does anyone have any suggestions on this?
 
Hey all. I rearranged my plants, and my best guess is that I may have turned the pots in a way that they were ever so slightly out of level and had a spill that came out the notch where the tube goes into the tray.
At one point, I recall reading about someone making a minor modification that kept the water level in the trays a bit lower. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Maybe have a link?
Or does anyone have any suggestions on this?
All i can suggest is the little rubbers that make a seal may be slightly off they have 2 in each one you can always try reseating them.
 
Thanks. Ive tried that. I guess Im more concerned that the 'set' level is SO close to the overflow level.
 
All i can suggest is the little rubbers that make a seal may be slightly off they have 2 in each one you can always try reseating them.
Beat me to the draw @St. Tom. @yak22, if the tray overfills, the problem is probably failure of the inner float valve to seal. The cure is to turn off the reservoir, remove and dis-assemble the valve entirely, clean everything (including removing, cleaning and re-installing both silicone seals) and put it all back together. Make sure that the valve area of the tray is clean before repositioning the valve. If you can see grooving on the silicone seals where they press onto the seal surface, reverse them to present a flat smooth face to the seal, and make sure that they are inserted fully and flat into their cavities.

One additional possibility is that you have not pressed the valve fully into place onto its retainer post. The bottom of the valve cover needs to be flush with the tray surface.

Have a look at the troubleshooting sticky for more details, and shoot me a pm if you don't get it sorted.

Good luck with it. :goodluck: :pighug:
 
Thanks. Ive tried that. I guess Im more concerned that the 'set' level is SO close to the overflow level.
The proper water level should not go above the top of the nut securing the inlet tube to the valve assembly. If it is higher than that, the seal is not sealing until extra water depth causes the float to press harder than should be necessary to generate a seal. See my comment below about grooving in the silicones. Once grooved, they can refuse to seal again because, once disturbed, they can fail to line up perfectly with the seal lip which is quite sharp.
 
I noticed the hole where the top silicone piece sits has to be completely free of water. One of mine kept overflowing from a bit of moisture causing it not to seal correctly.
 
I noticed the hole where the top silicone piece sits has to be completely free of water. One of mine kept overflowing from a bit of moisture causing it not to seal correctly.
At risk of offending, I will offer a correction - failure of the top seal cannot cause overflow. It can cause over watering, but not because the maximum water level increases. The over watering, if symptoms develop, happens because air leaks into the inner float chamber through the valve, causing the water level inside the float body to go down at the same rate it does on the outside of the float body. Normally, the water level inside the body stays high enough to keep the inner float valve securely closed until air can get beneath the bottom edge of the body. This is why the Aquavalve forces the plants to use all the water/nute solution before re-flooding the tray. If the top valve leaks and allows air in, the water level will cycle from something like ~~1/2" or so deep and the normal maximum level. This means that the bottom 1/2" or so of the pot will be continuously flooded instead of periodically drained and aerated, which may, or may not, cause problems of overwatering, but is not how the Aquavalve is designed to operate.

The maximum height of water in the tray is controlled only by the inner float valve, and if overflow occurs, this valve is not operating properly, likely due to contamination of the seal area with crud, distortion or poor seating of the silicone, or physical damage of the hard plastic lip that the silicone seals against. Never use anything hard to try to clean the plastic seal surface or clear out the hole that liquid moves through. If the sharp lip of the seal surface is damaged, the entire valve is toast.

You are correct though that water beneath the silicone of the top valve could prevent proper seating of the silicone, and that could cause malfunction. Both float valves work properly only if the silcones are fully seated, seriously clean, and the silicone surface undistorted. It is a really good idea to have a supply of fresh silicones on hand, and if cleaning the Aquavalve and re-assembling does not fix mis-behaviour, the next cure is to replace the silicone(s) with fresh ones.

Good luck with your grows, and please don't take offense at my correction. The more discussion of how this unique little valve works here the better. :thanks: :pighug:
 
Thanks for that in depth explanation. And thanks to everyone for the info.
I went in and really cleaned everything and all seems to be back to proper operation.
I think the cleaning helped. But I actually came to realize that I had shuffled things around in my tent and didn’t turn off the main feed valve. And when I bumped and jostled everything and I think I may have unseated something or added air in places it shouldn’t be.
I did find some buildup as well, which also could have contributed to the issue. Maybe.
But all is well now. Thanks!
 
Thanks for that in depth explanation. And thanks to everyone for the info.
I went in and really cleaned everything and all seems to be back to proper operation.
I think the cleaning helped. But I actually came to realize that I had shuffled things around in my tent and didn’t turn off the main feed valve. And when I bumped and jostled everything and I think I may have unseated something or added air in places it shouldn’t be.
I did find some buildup as well, which also could have contributed to the issue. Maybe.
But all is well now. Thanks!
Glad to hear that things are back on track! :pighug:
 
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