First Harvest

[Cannagus]

Earlier this week I harvested my first plant ever. Been rolling it for about 46 yrs. so it's about time I'd say. It was the only auto's I have running, 2 Fastbuds Original Cheese taken down on Day 90. I noticed one day the stalks looked a bit jaundiced, next day a few leaves yellowed, next day the turning of the leaves was progressing so fast that at Day 90 waiting longer didn't seem like the best idea. I had been waiting to see a few amber trichs but very few ever turned amber.

The better of the two

And WonkyMatic 3000

The outcome of growing these plants met my only goal of growing them until they were finished and making me a bit of bud, no high hurdles here. Total wet weight was 151g so I'm expecting 21g +/- dry. And I got some experience in the craft. I noticed a couple things in the tear-down I'll share.

Every place on the one with more buds where a leaf turned yellow, the bud had browned around it inside. Don't know if this is normal, my first impression was to not like seeing it.

Wonky turned out to be infected with what I think will be confirmed here as powdery mildew. Not the entire plant but I had to cull several buds that had it, and kept them separate during drying. The trim from infected buds I let go to the ground. Didn't want to cross contaminate during drying. I'm forgiving myself for not detecting it sooner, in each case just a bit was showing at the base of the bud, but pulling the bud open revealed more had crept up the stem. Fungal treatment for my remaining plants will be happening real soon.

The roots, Wonky is actually the longer one. Strange that the freakier of the two had the best roots.

So there ya go. Clearly I'm not going to bust an axle on anything hauling my yield around, but for these two it's over. For me there's more to come I have some photo's running that I'm real pleased with. The AFN community rightly deserves a shout out, I picked up some sound practice here, so thanks for being here and for your time looking over this small piece of my venture. Good Times

 

[St. Tom]

Earlier this week I harvested my first plant ever. Been rolling it for about 46 yrs. so it's about time I'd say. It was the only auto's I have running, 2 Fastbuds Original Cheese taken down on Day 90. I noticed one day the stalks looked a bit jaundiced, next day a few leaves yellowed, next day the turning of the leaves was progressing so fast that at Day 90 waiting longer didn't seem like the best idea. I had been waiting to see a few amber trichs but very few ever turned amber.

The better of the two
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And WonkyMatic 3000
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The outcome of growing these plants met my only goal of growing them until they were finished and making me a bit of bud, no high hurdles here. Total wet weight was 151g so I'm expecting 21g +/- dry. And I got some experience in the craft. I noticed a couple things in the tear-down I'll share.

Every place on the one with more buds where a leaf turned yellow, the bud had browned around it inside. Don't know if this is normal, my first impression was to not like seeing it.
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Wonky turned out to be infected with what I think will be confirmed here as powdery mildew. Not the entire plant but I had to cull several buds that had it, and kept them separate during drying. The trim from infected buds I let go to the ground. Didn't want to cross contaminate during drying. I'm forgiving myself for not detecting it sooner, in each case just a bit was showing at the base of the bud, but pulling the bud open revealed more had crept up the stem. Fungal treatment for my remaining plants will be happening real soon.
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The roots, Wonky is actually the longer one. Strange that the freakier of the two had the best roots.

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So there ya go. Clearly I'm not going to bust an axle on anything hauling my yield around, but for these two it's over. For me there's more to come I have some photo's running that I'm real pleased with. The AFN community rightly deserves a shout out, I picked up some sound practice here, so thanks for being here and for your time looking over this small piece of my venture. Good Times

Its all experience bro and the problem with outdoor and mould come hand in hand but least you have some home grown now

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Earlier this week I harvested my first plant ever. Been rolling it for about 46 yrs. so it's about time I'd say. It was the only auto's I have running, 2 Fastbuds Original Cheese taken down on Day 90. I noticed one day the stalks looked a bit jaundiced, next day a few leaves yellowed, next day the turning of the leaves was progressing so fast that at Day 90 waiting longer didn't seem like the best idea. I had been waiting to see a few amber trichs but very few ever turned amber.

The better of the two
View attachment 1341095

And WonkyMatic 3000
View attachment 1341098

The outcome of growing these plants met my only goal of growing them until they were finished and making me a bit of bud, no high hurdles here. Total wet weight was 151g so I'm expecting 21g +/- dry. And I got some experience in the craft. I noticed a couple things in the tear-down I'll share.

Every place on the one with more buds where a leaf turned yellow, the bud had browned around it inside. Don't know if this is normal, my first impression was to not like seeing it.
View attachment 1341099

Wonky turned out to be infected with what I think will be confirmed here as powdery mildew. Not the entire plant but I had to cull several buds that had it, and kept them separate during drying. The trim from infected buds I let go to the ground. Didn't want to cross contaminate during drying. I'm forgiving myself for not detecting it sooner, in each case just a bit was showing at the base of the bud, but pulling the bud open revealed more had crept up the stem. Fungal treatment for my remaining plants will be happening real soon.
View attachment 1341102

The roots, Wonky is actually the longer one. Strange that the freakier of the two had the best roots.

View attachment 1341105

So there ya go. Clearly I'm not going to bust an axle on anything hauling my yield around, but for these two it's over. For me there's more to come I have some photo's running that I'm real pleased with. The AFN community rightly deserves a shout out, I picked up some sound practice here, so thanks for being here and for your time looking over this small piece of my venture. Good Times

Congrats on getting a plant across the finish line. Unfortunately you have some Bud Rot - Botrytis. It happens to all of us sooner or later.

We are testing a product that may help prevent that problem. Follow along here:

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[TexasGrows]

Congratulations on the first harvest!!!!! I know how you feel!!!!! I too have been buying the stuff and smoking daily for 35 years or so. Always thought about growing but never had the right situation to do it.

Now I have been growing for 3 years and I am almost to where I won't be buying any more unless I just want to.

Mostly Mexican commercial around here unless you want to pay $100 or more per quarter. I am so glad i started growing my own it's so satisfying!!!!!!

 

[Cannagus]

Its all experience bro and the problem with outdoor and mould come hand in hand but least you have some home grown now

My home is in an area that is midwestern prairie, and one of the only original and largely untouched wetlands along a minor but lengthy river. Which basically translates to I live next to a swamp that's been a swamp for a really long time and is not likely to ever be anything but a swamp lol. It sort of reminds one of Yoda's planet Dagobah, the diversity of life is pretty amazing and also includes plenty of algae, fungus and molds. Lots of learning in this first year. Thank you for the rep.

Congrats on getting a plant across the finish line. Unfortunately you have some Bud Rot - Botrytis. It happens to all of us sooner or later.

We are testing a product that may help prevent that problem. Follow along here:

...reboot time, now under it's true name Phyter!

:toke: Good day AFN'ers! :smokeout: As the title suggests, RotBlock, aka Phyter is alive and well after all! The owner of Phyter has reached out to us here, and is looking to do some proper testing again this year :woohoo: It's all early in the gig here yet, so no details beyond this so...

www.autoflower.org

Thank you. I rather suspected I was seeing bud rot, apparently it was just getting started ? I don't quite understand if the bud rotted around the dead/dying leaf or if the leaf died back because of the rot. I do know that next time I see a yellow leaf on a bud I'm going to pull the bud open and look for it, and I guess remove buds if that's what I have to do to try and get it stopped. The effect on my yield in this case was pretty minimal but from what I understand bud rot will bone you right out of what had been a great plant, and maybe make pretty short work of doing it too.

Congratulations on the first harvest!!!!!

Thanks Texas. I'm sure I'm going to be happier doing for myself, the work that's necessary suits me fine. Last fall a buddy of mine opened my eyes just by saying look, if I can do it you can do it. I was just laughing to myself the other day how we used to give 10$ for a lid of Mexican and gripe because it had a lot of seeds...and now we give 10$ or more for a single seed lol.

 

[Olderfart]

Earlier this week I harvested my first plant ever. Been rolling it for about 46 yrs. so it's about time I'd say. It was the only auto's I have running, 2 Fastbuds Original Cheese taken down on Day 90. I noticed one day the stalks looked a bit jaundiced, next day a few leaves yellowed, next day the turning of the leaves was progressing so fast that at Day 90 waiting longer didn't seem like the best idea. I had been waiting to see a few amber trichs but very few ever turned amber.

The better of the two
View attachment 1341095

And WonkyMatic 3000
View attachment 1341098

The outcome of growing these plants met my only goal of growing them until they were finished and making me a bit of bud, no high hurdles here. Total wet weight was 151g so I'm expecting 21g +/- dry. And I got some experience in the craft. I noticed a couple things in the tear-down I'll share.

Every place on the one with more buds where a leaf turned yellow, the bud had browned around it inside. Don't know if this is normal, my first impression was to not like seeing it.
View attachment 1341099

Wonky turned out to be infected with what I think will be confirmed here as powdery mildew. Not the entire plant but I had to cull several buds that had it, and kept them separate during drying. The trim from infected buds I let go to the ground. Didn't want to cross contaminate during drying. I'm forgiving myself for not detecting it sooner, in each case just a bit was showing at the base of the bud, but pulling the bud open revealed more had crept up the stem. Fungal treatment for my remaining plants will be happening real soon.
View attachment 1341102

The roots, Wonky is actually the longer one. Strange that the freakier of the two had the best roots.

View attachment 1341105

So there ya go. Clearly I'm not going to bust an axle on anything hauling my yield around, but for these two it's over. For me there's more to come I have some photo's running that I'm real pleased with. The AFN community rightly deserves a shout out, I picked up some sound practice here, so thanks for being here and for your time looking over this small piece of my venture. Good Times

As @Mañ'O'Green says, the infected bud is Botrytis bud rot. Several growers here including me have tests underway now on RotBlock, a product that inoculates plants with microorganisms which in theory at least can outcompete Botrytis before it gets going. Aside from RotBlock or something like it, keeping rain off your outdoor girls can help, as can a fan to keep air moving through the canopy. There is not much you can do to control overall relative humidity.

One early hint that your outdoor plants are headed for trouble is if you see little droplets of water on the tips of your leaf serrations in the morning. This is called guttation, and happens when relative humidity is too high for normal transpiration. In my experience, if you see guttation, Botrytis will likely follow. The yellowing leaves in buds is the primary early symptom of bud rot. The yellow leaves are dying because rot is killing them from the inside of the bud out. It is only later that the rot progresses to the point that it is obvious on the outside of the bud. Any time you see sugar leaves in buds starting to yellow earlier than other parts of the plant naturally enter serious decline, suspect bud rot. By the time you see symptoms, there is usually lots more of it that you can't see yet.

With indoor grows, avoiding bud rot is achieved by a combination of keeping humidity down during flowering, thinning canopy as needed to ensure air flow, and keeping the air moving with fans. In my location, being able to control relative humidity is an enormous advantage to growing indoors. Relative humidity outdoors gets far too high too often to reliably avoid bud rot. Unless, of course, current tests confirm the effectiveness of Rotblock. We shall see.

 

[Cannagus]

As @Mañ'O'Green says, the infected bud is Botrytis bud rot. Several growers here including me have tests underway now on RotBlock, a product that inoculates plants with microorganisms which in theory at least can outcompete Botrytis before it gets going. Aside from RotBlock or something like it, keeping rain off your outdoor girls can help, as can a fan to keep air moving through the canopy. There is not much you can do to control overall relative humidity.

Some of what I have going is in containers and there have been times when I took them into the shed so they wouldn't have to be subjected to severe weather. I try to go around most mornings and after a rain and shake them off.

One early hint that your outdoor plants are headed for trouble is if you see little droplets of water on the tips of your leaf serrations in the morning. This is called guttation, and happens when relative humidity is too high for normal transpiration. In my experience, if you see guttation, Botrytis will likely follow. The yellowing leaves in buds is the primary early symptom of bud rot. The yellow leaves are dying because rot is killing them from the inside of the bud out. It is only later that the rot progresses to the point that it is obvious on the outside of the bud. Any time you see sugar leaves in buds starting to yellow earlier than other parts of the plant naturally enter serious decline, suspect bud rot. By the time you see symptoms, there is usually lots more of it that you can't see yet.

Thanks for sharing that, that info is going to be very useful. It does get obscenely humid here. There is usually air moving, once in a while it gets still for a while.

 

[Cannagus]

So this just now occurred to me...have I screwed up by not culling the botrytis infected buds ? The powdery mildew I kept separate but for some reason I never thought for even a moment of culling the nugs that were browned a bit. Does botrytis stay active after the plant is dead, will it spread to other buds that it lies next to at this very moment ?

 

[armanidog]

Yea you need to cull the bad buds out. I would not want to be inhaling botrytis spores. And if the bud is still damp it can infect other buds.
"Although no mycotoxin has been reported from this fungus, it may cause hay fever, asthma and keratomycosis " Wikipedia

 

[Cannagus]

Yea you need to cull the bad buds out. I would not want to be inhaling botrytis spores. And if the bud is still damp it can infect other buds.

Thanks for letting me know. I went through the bulk of it yesterday, could've done with better lighting but I had a magnifying glass, and culled out buds that looked suspect. Later, I picked one from the bulk and looked at it with a loupe...it looked to me to be a straight up mess. did not look right at all. Difficult to describe, just an ugly wrong looking abortion of a bud. I'll have to loupe everything in the jar I hope I find some it's ok to use, I'm not really of a mind to go snorking up mold spore either. But better this all happens now so I can try to get my grow and my practices squared away. Unless the wheels just fly clear off it I'm going to be drying and curing a lot more bud than my little cheesy freaks produced. Right now I'm concentrating on treating with fungicide and Neem oil to try and get out in front of it with what's left.