Can someone explain the f1,f2,f3...thing when buying seeds?

[Smoking Frog]

Search fonction didn't turn any explanations of the ''f'' thing seeds.A link to some good and simple explanations would work too if you have one!

 

[Drownomatic]

This refers to generations of rebreeding.

F1 is first generation.

F2 for some reason is commonly where phenotypes pop up.

Large F numbers tend to be more stable.

 

[Smoking Frog]

Ok! But got more questions! If you're making feminize autoflower seeds,how can you rebreed them to get to f2,f3, if only get female plants?

 

[blue]

Ok! But got more questions! If you're making feminize autoflower seeds,how can you rebreed them to get to f2,f3, if only get female plants?

There should be a thread explaining how breeding works, but i can't find you one.

As far as I know, you get F which are the generations of breeding, then you get S which is selfed (reversing a branch i assume, and using the pollen from that to polinate the plant), and the BX which i believe is a "back cross"

But i'm sure that sounds very naive to those that know how to actually breed stuff

I'll tag some people who can probably explain it easily without getting into the punnett square laws of baffelry

@Waira @BCBudlady - you wanna try and explain what I'm trying to talk about?

 

[Hog_M@Gundy]

F stands for 'Filial generation'

Read all about F1, F2, F3 etc selections

Successful crosses inherit the best traits from their parents. Let's discuss what F1, F2, F3 etc selections are.

marijuanaseedbreeders.com

True F1s will display hybrid vigor and display lower phenotypic variations with approx. 25% leaning towards the mother. 25 toward the father and 50% an even blend of both.
F2s will display the most genetic variation, which is definitely good to know when buying seeds

 

[BCBudlady]

Pretty succinct explanation.

 

[Hog_M@Gundy]

Also something good to know:
Selfed or S1 seeds are probably not wheat you think they are. I thought (and I think most people do initailly) that selfing a plant would be basically like cloning that phenotype. But, I've since learned that selfng a plant will produce seeds that display the full range of genetic combinations present within the parent. With S1s its actually unlikely that you'll find a seed that is perfectly representative of the parent. Heres a good discussion on the topic:

 

[Hog_M@Gundy]

@Frank the Dank thanks for the reps! This stuff can get complicated quickly. I've been working on a plan for my first reversal/seed run (though I may just get some regs and go the natural route). So, I've been really digging into understanding the breeding process.

This refers to generations of rebreeding.

F1 is first generation.

F2 for some reason is commonly where phenotypes pop up.

Large F numbers tend to be more stable.

F2 displays more variation because of the interaction between dominant and recessive genes.
If Parent A has a dominant gene and Parent B has the recessive gene, their children (F1 generation) will mostly display the dominant trait, but still have the recessive trait in their genetic makeup.
So, to get to F2 you cross two parents from F1 that will both have said recessive gene.
This increases the likelihood the that the F2 children will display the recessive trait. Expand this out to all the different genes and you can kind of understand why the variation changes so much in that generation.

 

[420Forever]

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