Calcium? Phosphorus?

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Hello everyone! First time poster but been lurking around for the past few months when I decided to do my first grow doing as much learning as possible. Great site!
So I’ll get to my point/problem.

Growing blueberry auto in FFOF soil in a 3 gallon fabric pot. Running RO water ph’d to 6.4-6.7 for her whole life. Been feeding fox farm trio since maybe week 4-5 with calmag since I’m using RO. She is super bushy and buds are stacking up in my current week of 9 but she started showing spots of maybe a “rusty” color on her leaves. I keep researching symptoms and can’t seem to figure out what she wants. I feel it looks like calcium def. but then the more I look at pictures it also kind of looks like it could be phosphorus. I first tried adding a little more calmag per feeding but didn’t seem to fix it. So I kicked her a little more tiger bloom in the next feeding and again didn’t seem to cure it. I’ve been feeding every other watering and my PPM’s have been in the 800 range for the past 3 feedings, and have on a handful of occasions checked runoff water which has seemed to stay steady at a ph of 6.5.
If someone has an idea I’d certainly appreciate the help! She’s gonna make it to the finish line since there’s only a few weeks left but knowledage is power and I plan to start another grow shortly after this harvest and am trying to combat problems earlier then this has gotten.

Here’s a pic of a couple of leaves. And the whole plant. Many leaves have it from the top to the bottom. Again thanks and happy growing!
Sorry I cant seem to figure out how to rotate these pics on my phone.

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Adding a pic of my northern lights which has gotten much worse. Same problem between both of these girls I believe.
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Looks like a liitle phosphorous def along with cal def.Keep using cal/mag at every watering 1tsp per gal and try and give her more phosphorous.
 
how long have you been feeding extra? it'll take days to show halting, and won't reverse damage,... Seems a tough call, but if it's top to bottom same symptoms, I'm leaning toward P defc. vs. Ca, though the two can show very similarly, and can happen at the same time! :doh: .. difference is, Ca is nearly immobile within the plant, can't be translocated form older lower leaves to newer growth, so it tends to show mid to uppers first and worst,.... P is mobile, but tapping of fans doesn't always draw from lowest leaves first.... 2nd plant is same for sure!
.... seems odd, given your elevation in feeding, and Tiger has plenty of P... pH of run-off isn't an good measure of actual in-pot pH, though at 6.5 , depending on input pH (and not being a nute solution which will skew readings), it's OK; if it was way off, I'd be more suspect.... ppm input isn't that rich either, no sing of tip burn, or lockouts..... Hmmm,... what's the Ca-Mg brand, and dosage? I might be changing my mind here about P,....
 
Thanks for getting back guys!
I don’t currently have an in soil probe (waiting on my infamous accurate 8) but my input has been quite consistent around between say 6.3 and maybe 6.6 I don’t get super fussy to hit an exact ph every time. I’m using calmag plus and been putting about 3-4ml per 3/4 gal since that’s roughly how much I’m giving each plant. My ppms going in have been anywhere from 650-850 pending on my feed (either just tiger on every feeding now in flower along with every other feeding adding grow big according to trio schedule) and been doing just a straight ph with cal mag in between these feedings. I did on a few occasions skip cal mag because my bottle was saying only 3-5ml a gallon per week and these girls are just drinking like crazy right now. So if I give cal mag every feed at bottle numbers they’d be getting ~20ml a week. If I go more then 2 days with no water they will start wilting down so I’ve been staying pretty tight on every other day. If I’m giving them a calcium toxicity would this appear kind of the same as deficiency?

Thanks again for the help to a growing newbie. I just hope to get through this grow without killing them. I figure I’m only a few weeks away from harvest so I’m super close!!
 
I would say the heaviest spotting on my NL does seem mostly at the top newer growth but does continue through to the bottom. But I have one cola that has almost zero spots and then another cola loaded up with spots. And my amnesia haze (not blueberry like originally stated) is similar. Heavier spotting on top but does continue through the canopy. My blueberry seems happy as a clam besides not filling out near as much as the other 2 girls but has come along a bit more in the last week or so. She show no signs of def. at all and have fed them all mostly the same along the journey. Only in the last 3 weeks since spotting came along have I started treating them a little different but only on the tiger side of things. Cal mag has been consistent through life and so has ph.
 
Thanks for getting back guys!
I don’t currently have an in soil probe (waiting on my infamous accurate 8) but my input has been quite consistent around between say 6.3 and maybe 6.6 I don’t get super fussy to hit an exact ph every time. I’m using calmag plus and been putting about 3-4ml per 3/4 gal since that’s roughly how much I’m giving each plant. My ppms going in have been anywhere from 650-850 pending on my feed (either just tiger on every feeding now in flower along with every other feeding adding grow big according to trio schedule) and been doing just a straight ph with cal mag in between these feedings. I did on a few occasions skip cal mag because my bottle was saying only 3-5ml a gallon per week and these girls are just drinking like crazy right now. So if I give cal mag every feed at bottle numbers they’d be getting ~20ml a week. If I go more then 2 days with no water they will start wilting down so I’ve been staying pretty tight on every other day. If I’m giving them a calcium toxicity would this appear kind of the same as deficiency?

Thanks again for the help to a growing newbie. I just hope to get through this grow without killing them. I figure I’m only a few weeks away from harvest so I’m super close!!
Looks like phosphorus to me. Calcium more often than not hits the serrated edges with tiny brown/rusty spots rather than the centre of the leaves like what you have. I would cut your calmag down by maybe 1/2 it could be locking out other nutes. Besides I see no sign of cal or mag deficiency so why bother giving it large doses of something it doesn’t need.
I’d reccomend a feed of kelp via the leaves and some extra phosphorus although I’m still no expert. Good luck bro.....
 
Also, don’t be afraid to go as high as 1100 ppm with some plants especially if in flower. You could try upping it to 9-950ppm.
 
Looks like phosphorus to me. Calcium more often than not hits the serrated edges with tiny brown/rusty spots rather than the centre of the leaves like what you have. I would cut your calmag down by maybe 1/2 it could be locking out other nutes. Besides I see no sign of cal or mag deficiency so why bother giving it large doses of something it doesn’t need.
I’d reccomend a feed of kelp via the leaves and some extra phosphorus although I’m still no expert. Good luck bro.....
Ok thanks for the info on calcium hitting serrated edges! My spotting is certainly working from vein out.
 
Also, don’t be afraid to go as high as 1100 ppm with some plants especially if in flower. You could try upping it to 9-950ppm.
Ok. I gave them all just a ph feed of straight RO today since I’m only feeding every other and they just got fed 2 days ago.
I will try upping my feed a bit in a couple days. And see if progression slows/stops.
Thanks again for the help. I just want to make it to harvest! SOO close! :biggrin:
 
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