Burnt looking brown spots?

[Hemposapien]

Hey Waira,

Yeah, it's C4 Matic by Fast buds. I'd say about 50% of the seeds turned out to be genetically mutated which really sucks. As for using coco and dry ammendments. To be honest, I didn't know that. I've taken all of my growing advice from mainly Mr. Canuck Grows on Youtube. That's how he grow his and it looks like some great dank. Although looks can be decieving, anyways here's a link to his autoflower grow guide.

Has she had those fraggy looking leaves all along? If so, it a genetic thing, had a couple myself,.. all showed very bitchy nute sensitivity, poor vigor, just plain inferior across the board... No fixing it either, so ride her out best you can,....
Coco is not a forgiving medium, a lot of do's and don't's as it's not a true soil... really, it's meant for hydro-type growing, frequent milder feeding, lot's od run-off...
Gaia, these are dry nutes, organic? Also not a good way to roll with coco... any organic needs the soil microbes to help break down and release the nutes in them... Any inoculant going in? Without it, things are even slower getting into the plant....

 

[MesaBoogie]

I've been watching mr.canucks grows for a bit now and thinking about trying it out. But here is the thing about his grows, he kinda does the opposite of what every other person that grows in coco does. He treats it like a soil. And looking at other people that follow his method seem to kind of fail. I think what's going on is the coco he uses. Its a brand called mo'koko. It comes pre washed and buffered and "ph stable". So i'm not really sure what ph stable means. I think possibly it's buffered with something to bring the ph to the proper levels of what coco needs when you water. But he definitely claims that you have to feed at 6.2-6.5 because he's "feeding the soil". Another potential issue I think is when you follow his grow with a different brand of coco you typically need to wash and buffer your coco before you use it. This could be a step you skipped.

@Waira do you have any thoughts of what's gong on that Mr.Canuk can break the coco rules and produce killer plants ?

 

[Hemposapien]

That's good to know Mesa, thankfully I use ph stable coco as well called Cyco. Supposedly each bag has it's ph tested individually. From my first grow I got really good bud but the yield wasn't anywhere near to what he got. I've been told using soil indoors can cause havoc when it comes to pests so that's why I chose to use coco.

I've been watching mr.canucks grows for a bit now and thinking about trying it out. But here is the thing about his grows, he kinda does the opposite of what every other person that grows in coco does. He treats it like a soil. And looking at other people that follow his method seem to kind of fail. I think what's going on is the coco he uses. Its a brand called mo'koko. It comes pre washed and buffered and "ph stable". So i'm not really sure what ph stable means. I think possibly it's buffered with something to bring the ph to the proper levels of what coco needs when you water. But he definitely claims that you have to feed at 6.2-6.5 because he's "feeding the soil". Another potential issue I think is when you follow his grow with a different brand of coco you typically need to wash and buffer your coco before you use it. This could be a step you skipped.

@Waira do you have any thoughts of what's gong on that Mr.Canuk can break the coco rules and produce killer plants ?

 

[Hemposapien]

Hey again Waira,

I decided to take things a step further by taking pictures of a few Leafs under the microscope. Here's what I found. I hope those little bumps are trichomes and not spider mite eggs...

Has she had those fraggy looking leaves all along? If so, it a genetic thing, had a couple myself,.. all showed very bitchy nute sensitivity, poor vigor, just plain inferior across the board... No fixing it either, so ride her out best you can,....
Coco is not a forgiving medium, a lot of do's and don't's as it's not a true soil... really, it's meant for hydro-type growing, frequent milder feeding, lot's od run-off...
Gaia, these are dry nutes, organic? Also not a good way to roll with coco... any organic needs the soil microbes to help break down and release the nutes in them... Any inoculant going in? Without it, things are even slower getting into the plant....

 

[Bluugrss]

Those "bumps" are the plants stomata.
Thats how the facilitate gas exchange.

 

[Hemposapien]

I hope to God you're right. Thanks for your input.

Those "bumps" are the plants stomata.
Thats how the facilitate gas exchange.

 

[Waira]

I've been watching mr.canucks grows for a bit now and thinking about trying it out. But here is the thing about his grows, he kinda does the opposite of what every other person that grows in coco does. He treats it like a soil. And looking at other people that follow his method seem to kind of fail. I think what's going on is the coco he uses. Its a brand called mo'koko. It comes pre washed and buffered and "ph stable". So i'm not really sure what ph stable means. I think possibly it's buffered with something to bring the ph to the proper levels of what coco needs when you water. But he definitely claims that you have to feed at 6.2-6.5 because he's "feeding the soil". Another potential issue I think is when you follow his grow with a different brand of coco you typically need to wash and buffer your coco before you use it. This could be a step you skipped.

@Waira do you have any thoughts of what's gong on that Mr.Canuk can break the coco rules and produce killer plants ?

No idea mate, I'd have to go bugger around his vids, and I can't be sussed frankly,... Some people manage to do that style, depends on their nutes, the growers familiarity with them and all the other usual factors in such a grow,... he is managing the nute ion load in there like a champ, and the microbes if well established and plentiful can help a great deal in this by temporarily taking them up and releasing as they grow and die,...A buffering effect of sorts, but really it's a cycle...
The typical method with coco is with lots of run-off, doing it "hydro" style, but consider Autopots, BluMats, or any bottom fed system.. No r-o there, right? So, it's not impossible to run coco in a non-hydro mode, but you gotta have the chops to do it... Autopot folks get in trouble too on occasion, and it's a PITA to fix... This why many who try to mimic his gig don't succeed,... Coco is bitchy, period, but mastered you can grow as well as anything else!
It's not the pH buffering, but the CEC buffering with Ca/Mg, which bind strongly to the coco particles... it gotta be sated with them first, then it gives/takes like it should,... Also, high quality, well aged and rinsed coco is key, otherwise you have rogue K and worse Na fucking with things...

I decided to take things a step further by taking pictures of a few Leafs under the microscope. Here's what I found. I hope those little bumps are trichomes and not spider mite eggs...

not eggs, most of those are a type of trichome, bulbous and/or sessile... leaves tend to have more sessile and bulbous types..

 

[Hemposapien]

Damn man, Mr Canuck should really put that disclaimer in his grow guide before telling people his grow method. I've invested in big bags of Gaia Green nutes. In general the flower produced is still really good but I always manage to get a nutrient deficiency, burnt brown spots on leaves and yellowing mostly. But since the nutrients are basically locked in because they're pre-mixed you're basically stuck with what you got and it seems hard to fix. It might be those compost teas he's constantly using, that may have something to do with his great results. What do you think y'all?

No idea mate, I'd have to go bugger around his vids, and I can't be sussed frankly,... Some people manage to do that style, depends on their nutes, the growers familiarity with them and all the other usual factors in such a grow,... he is managing the nute ion load in there like a champ, and the microbes if well established and plentiful can help a great deal in this by temporarily taking them up and releasing as they grow and die,...A buffering effect of sorts, but really it's a cycle...
The typical method with coco is with lots of run-off, doing it "hydro" style, but consider Autopots, BluMats, or any bottom fed system.. No r-o there, right? So, it's not impossible to run coco in a non-hydro mode, but you gotta have the chops to do it... Autopot folks get in trouble too on occasion, and it's a PITA to fix... This why many who try to mimic his gig don't succeed,... Coco is bitchy, period, but mastered you can grow as well as anything else!
It's not the pH buffering, but the CEC buffering with Ca/Mg, which bind strongly to the coco particles... it gotta be sated with them first, then it gives/takes like it should,... Also, high quality, well aged and rinsed coco is key, otherwise you have rogue K and worse Na fucking with things...

I've been watching mr.canucks grows for a bit now and thinking about trying it out. But here is the thing about his grows, he kinda does the opposite of what every other person that grows in coco does. He treats it like a soil. And looking at other people that follow his method seem to kind of fail. I think what's going on is the coco he uses. Its a brand called mo'koko. It comes pre washed and buffered and "ph stable". So i'm not really sure what ph stable means. I think possibly it's buffered with something to bring the ph to the proper levels of what coco needs when you water. But he definitely claims that you have to feed at 6.2-6.5 because he's "feeding the soil". Another potential issue I think is when you follow his grow with a different brand of coco you typically need to wash and buffer your coco before you use it. This could be a step you skipped.

@Waira do you have any thoughts of what's gong on that Mr.Canuk can break the coco rules and produce killer plants ?

not eggs, most of those are a type of trichome, bulbous and/or sessile... leaves tend to have more sessile and bulbous types..
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[Waira]

the teas are loaded with Life, part of the reason why as explained above,... Switch to soil and that will solve a lot right there! Get a soil pH probe to monitor in-pot pH, use high quality soil, not Fuxfarms garbage or budget swag.... use inoculants, humic filvic, Si, kelp, and enzymes can help even more...
Read up in the coco section for more info about it,... organic/coco is not easy at all, don't buy into any BS about it otherwise. 5 years of doing this gig here in Sick Bay and i see a lots of sideways grows doing this,...